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confused between the two - MCSE or MCITP? RRS feed

  • Question

  • Hi

    I'm a complete noob to Microsoft's certification track and I've a jar full of questions which I need to be answered. To start with something, I'd like to ask,

     

    - Which certification must I do first, MCSE or MCITP? Please also tell "Why"?

     

    Thanks

    Monday, August 16, 2010 8:03 AM

Answers

  • One of the things to know is that much of what you learn about Server 2008 is backwards compatible to Server 2003.  Completing the certifications on Server 2008 will definitely help in understanding/handling Server 2003, but will give you a "leg up" on the competition because you'll have experience and certification on Server 2008.
    • Marked as answer by Faizan Baig Monday, August 16, 2010 6:37 PM
    Monday, August 16, 2010 5:49 PM
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  • Hi Faizan,

    The best thing you can do is read the MS Learning site here. http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx

    All your questions are answered there and so much more. You first usually gain an MCTS, then an MCITP for harder exams. It all depends on what technology you wish to specialise in. (server, client, development etc.)

    I spend a lot of time on the learning site to help me decide my correct career path.

    Hope this helps.

    Monday, August 16, 2010 8:17 AM
  • The quick and easy answer is that the MCSE focuses on learning WinXP/Server 2003, and the MCITP Enterprise Administrator has you learning Vista/Win7 and Server 2008.

     

    The question that you need to answer is, do you want to earn a certification in technology that's 7+ years old, or on what is the most current?

    Monday, August 16, 2010 3:00 PM
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  • Hi Charles,

     

    It's precisely the dilemma I'm facing right now. Let me tell you the scenario more clearly. I live in Karachi, Pakistan. for now, majority of the companies are using Windows server 2003 and related MCSE based products for their server applications etc and this is where they are offering most of the jobs. While I'm thinking that if I will do a certification on something most recent then I might see myself being misfit in the scene for now (Although after some time I hope they shift to Windows server 2008 though) but right now the scene is in much favor of MCSE. So you see its the job market where the 7+ years old certification is still at use while I'm a little confuse as to whether I should do that 7+ years old certification and get into the market and later do an upgrade to most current (most unlikely idea for me) or I should kick off with the most current and then enter the job market while it is offering the jobs for the 7+ years old technology?

    I just need someone to satisfy me that if I do something "most current" and then try to begin my career in 7+ year old technology favoring job market then will be I be rewarded with a job of such caliber or better?

    I'll be really grateful.

     

    Thank you.

     

    P.S. the clients being used are Windows XP Professional mostly while a transition to Windows Vista could be observed at some places.

    Monday, August 16, 2010 5:27 PM
  • One of the things to know is that much of what you learn about Server 2008 is backwards compatible to Server 2003.  Completing the certifications on Server 2008 will definitely help in understanding/handling Server 2003, but will give you a "leg up" on the competition because you'll have experience and certification on Server 2008.
    • Marked as answer by Faizan Baig Monday, August 16, 2010 6:37 PM
    Monday, August 16, 2010 5:49 PM
    Answerer
  • One of the things to know is that much of what you learn about Server 2008 is backwards compatible to Server 2003.  Completing the certifications on Server 2008 will definitely help in understanding/handling Server 2003, but will give you a "leg up" on the competition because you'll have experience and certification on Server 2008.
    Thank you Mr. Charles Putnam for making it much clearer for me.
    Monday, August 16, 2010 6:38 PM
  • I wouldn't even consider MCSE at this point man. MCITP is the way to go and it's only 5 exams total. As others are saying also, everything is moving over to Server 2008, so you will already be behind if you go down the MCSE path.
    Monday, August 16, 2010 9:10 PM
  • I'm in the same dilemma as Faizan faced. From what I see, most manager would favor people with both MCSE and MCTIP more compared only MCTIP alone. I guess I'm not alone who thinks that. Blogs in borntolearn concur with me as well.

    http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/btl/b/weblog/archive/2010/09/27/what-matters-to-hiring-managers-certification-and-software-versions.aspx

    I'm coming from pure client background, and I wish to explore more on service side. However I did play around with Server 2003, and 2008 in my own lab out of my curiosity. So even if I obtained MCTIP, I don't have real experience to shows them I know what to do with Windows Server 2003. My idea is to go through MCSE to get the basic right and shows that I could handle the good old OS as well as the Server 2008. 

    So is it worth to start off from MCSE then MCTIP for someone who only have sandbox/mini-lab-in-a-std-workstation experience?

    Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:36 PM
  • I have MCSA pluss the 70-293 examn. My main goal is MCITP Enterprise Administrator.

    Should I go the following path: 294 and 297 for MCSE and then upgrade for MCITP (4 examns, but then I would hold MCSE and MCITP)? Or should I upgrade my MCSA and then go for MCITP (3 examns)? 

    Thank you.

    Tuesday, November 2, 2010 12:45 PM