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  • Hello,
    I am new into IT field....though I have been operating computers and using internet for 10 years.. But I mean I do not own any professional certificate or anything.Right now, I am really confused about which career path I should choose. When I told people I am into computers and want to pursue my career in IT they all recommended me to go for CCNA,CCNP etc.. I searched about it and found that it is worth doing it...but the thing is...its solely for networking purpose and career..though...I was and am always good at troubleshooting kind of work..something like system tech support...it comes naturally to me...I haven't even passed A+ exam (and i have heard its elementary certificate..and does not even get u a job but makes your foundation)but I almost know everything about all the topics covered in A+ certificate..(I checked them out in a book)..So My question is..which path should I choose? I checked CISCO website and they have showed a pretty easy to understand career path (though its not easy to achieve it that easily) like in a format of CCNA then CCNP then CCIE. Then, I checked Microsoft websites and took career finder test..the result it showed was "Enterprise Support Technician" and when I saw its complete job description ..specialization and typical next position ..i said to myself in one second..that's what I want to do..that's where I want to be...that's where I can improve. here is the link if anyone wants to know what I'm talking about Enterprise Support Technician | Technician Careers | Technician Jobs | Microsoft Learning .
    So its kinda like "Enterprise Support Technician" then "Enterprise administrator" then "Enterprise Messaging Administrator " etc.. but the thing is it does not show clearly what courses do i need to take to follow that path...does anyone know here how can I pursue this career path? and How far can I go in it? Someguy over a forum suggest me to go for A+, N+ then MCIPT: SA and MCIPT: EA but fter doing MCITP: SA and MCITP: EA what would be its worth? i'm not comparing it with cisco certificates as they both are different things. But just like CCNA is a entry level certificate while even fresh CCIE earns ____ lot of money...as its an advanced level..so what would it be like? If the above path explained by a guy does not sound correct then what would be? could you please..Plus, in the end we all want to end up with a good paying job....so what would it be worth in Pakistan or in any other country? I hope you guys will help me out..I am really confused..
    Thank You.
    Thursday, September 2, 2010 12:20 PM

Answers

  • Hi,

    You can find the required exams at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab3.

    So if you want to become an MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician you should check out the exam 70-680 and then 70-685.

    I cannot tell you, how valuable these are in Pakistan or other countries. My experience is, that most employers want experienced people. And of course young people. So I cannot tell you how easy it will be to find a job and how much money you could earn.

    But one thing is guranteed: The chances are always better with some certificates because that is a proove that you have some knowledge.

    I hope that helped a little.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:19 AM
    Thursday, September 2, 2010 1:52 PM
    Answerer
  • MCTIP would be like CCNP. MCA/MCM is equal to CCIE.

    Certifications: MCSA 2003|MCSE 2003|MCTS| MCTIP:SA
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:20 AM
    Thursday, September 2, 2010 5:39 PM
  • maybe you ment something like MCP -> MCSE -> MCSA
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:20 AM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:47 AM
  • I have a CCNA and have found that this certificate alone is not enough to secure employment in the current marketplace. Employers are now grouping jobs and requiring Microsoft certifications along with Cisco etc... To that end I am going to get my 70-685 and then move on to MCSA or some sort of server certification. This way I am not limited, if a desktop, server, or networking job (or any combination thereof) comes available, I know I have the skills needed. Dont stop once you get a cert...if you do your limiting yourself.
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:20 AM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:31 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    You can find the required exams at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab3.

    So if you want to become an MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician you should check out the exam 70-680 and then 70-685.

    I cannot tell you, how valuable these are in Pakistan or other countries. My experience is, that most employers want experienced people. And of course young people. So I cannot tell you how easy it will be to find a job and how much money you could earn.

    But one thing is guranteed: The chances are always better with some certificates because that is a proove that you have some knowledge.

    I hope that helped a little.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:19 AM
    Thursday, September 2, 2010 1:52 PM
    Answerer
  • Hi,

    You can find the required exams at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab3 .

    So if you want to become an MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician you should check out the exam 70-680 and then 70-685.

    I cannot tell you, how valuable these are in Pakistan or other countries. My experience is, that most employers want experienced people. And of course young people. So I cannot tell you how easy it will be to find a job and how much money you could earn.

    But one thing is guranteed: The chances are always better with some certificates because that is a proove that you have some knowledge.

    I hope that helped a little.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad


    Hello,

     First of all thank you for replying to my question. Well, Yes according to the Microsoft Website thats what I should do and I feel that too. But I guess you did not get my question. I will get this certificate but is this all? :)  i want to choose and plan a complete career path.. just like the complete path for cisco certification as professional is CCNA then CCNP then CCIE ..so what path can I choose for myself in Microsoft certification...A+ then N+ then MCITP then MCIT..then what? can you please define a complete path that would lead to a qualification if not equal to but similar to the level of CCIE..(I know CCIE is completely different but I am talking about the equal standard..like the demand and worth of that certificate). Or I can not rely on Microsoft certificates only to have a complete career in IT as a system administrator or anything & I will have to do Microsoft certification side by side with Cisco certification? I hope you will be able to reply me soon. thank you alot. :)

    Thursday, September 2, 2010 2:56 PM
  • Hi,

    I fear that there is nothing more. After you got the MCITP there is nothing else on this path. In some regions, Microsoft offers a Master or something like that. But I do not know of anyting like that in this area.

    So after getting a MCITP in that area, you could get another area. So maybe you also want to know all about client deployment? Or you want to help with office stuff? Or you choose to get a specialist on server products? There are more exams available so you get multiple MCITP certificates.

    But maybe someone else has more information about this and I am missing something, too. But all the people in the company where I work who was MCSE and such stuff all have MCITP titles now (e.g. MCITP Enterprise Administrator). So I fear that there is nothing else / better to get.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    Thursday, September 2, 2010 3:35 PM
    Answerer
  • Hello,

      That is alrite so far you have been helpful :) and thank you for guiding me through your real life experience. Could you please tell though if MCITP is equal to the standard level or demand of CCNA, CCNP or CCIE? ( I know its like comparing apples with oranges but I am talking about value and demand of the certificate) Because I do not want to stuck with nothing worth and yeah I will of course try to specialize in anything later on.

    Thank You.

    Thursday, September 2, 2010 4:04 PM
  • MCTIP would be like CCNP. MCA/MCM is equal to CCIE.

    Certifications: MCSA 2003|MCSE 2003|MCTS| MCTIP:SA
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:20 AM
    Thursday, September 2, 2010 5:39 PM
  • maybe you ment something like MCP -> MCSE -> MCSA
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:20 AM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:47 AM
  • I have a CCNA and have found that this certificate alone is not enough to secure employment in the current marketplace. Employers are now grouping jobs and requiring Microsoft certifications along with Cisco etc... To that end I am going to get my 70-685 and then move on to MCSA or some sort of server certification. This way I am not limited, if a desktop, server, or networking job (or any combination thereof) comes available, I know I have the skills needed. Dont stop once you get a cert...if you do your limiting yourself.
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:20 AM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:31 PM