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  • Question

  • As a victim of a MSDN Windows 7 Ultimate Ebay key offer (I was under the impression Microsoft did actively monitor Ebay for counterfeit software) I now have strong doubts about the status of my Office version. It still validates at the moment. From the forum I learned it could be a non blocked MSDN or Volume License that will soon be blocked too.

    So I'm wondering am I a fraud victim of Office too?

    Here is the info:

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
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    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 50
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0xc004c4a2
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-V74VQ-2KFJT-87JK9
    Windows Product Key Hash: 5SGTf6T9NaaOjRbDjdBaMlchXnk=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-067-1692764-86984
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
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    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

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    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

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    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 100 Genuine
    Microsoft Office Professional 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
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    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Versie van Software Licensing-service: 6.1.7600.16385

    Naam: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
    Beschrijving: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
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    URL van processorcertificaat: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    URL van computercertificaat: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
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    URL van productcodecertificaat: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Gedeeltelijke productcode: 87JK9
    Licentiestatus: gemeld dat Windows niet legitiem is
    Reden van melding: 0xC004F200 (niet-legitiem).
    Resterend aantal nieuwe Windows-activeringen: 3
    Vertrouwde tijd: 19-6-2010 11:16:53

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0xC004C4A2
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 6:16:2010 09:24
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: NAAAAAIAAAABAAEABAABAAAAAgABAAEAJJRa/U40dLXEIOh3Oh4EYN6IFsZMxSqNaHHI9A==

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

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    Windows marker version: 0x0
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    Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:26 AM

Answers

  • Hello gjdeboom,

    Please understand that the ONLY legitimate source for Microsoft software sold as a download, and ONLY legitimate source for the sale of product keys only, is Microsoft itself in association with its digital distribution partner Digital River.  ANY OTHER source of downloaded Microsoft software or standalone product keys marketed to average consumers is an illegitimate source.

    So, based on the above, your purchase of the Office product key was made from a seller who had no authority to sell such a key, so technically your software is nongenuine.  The good news is that, for the moment, your Office product key is passing validation.  Depending upon how many times the eBay seller has sold or will continue to sell the key to others, your product key may survive for years to come or it may be flagged by the Microsoft servers as nongenuine for being abused.  There's really no way to know for sure.


    Buy Office 2007 Now, Get Office 2010 Free http://office2010.microsoft.com/en-us/tech-guarantee/microsoft-office-2010-technology-guarantee-FX101825695.aspx?CTT=97
    • Marked as answer by gjdeboom Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:02 AM
    Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:01 PM

All replies

  • "gjdeboom" wrote in message news:7d827039-4235-46e7-a5ee-8c30e530e72a...

    As a victim of a MSDN Windows 7 Ultimate Ebay key offer (I was under the impression Microsoft did actively monitor Ebay for counterfeit software) I now have strong doubts about the status of my Office version. It still validates at the moment. From the forum I learned it could be a non blocked MSDN or Volume License that will soon be blocked too.

    So I'm wondering am I a fraud victim of Office too?

    Here is the info:

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 50
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0xc004c4a2
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-V74VQ-2KFJT-87JK9
    Windows Product Key Hash: 5SGTf6T9NaaOjRbDjdBaMlchXnk=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-067-1692764-86984
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7600.2.00010100.0.0.001

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 100 Genuine
    Microsoft Office Professional 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Other data-->
    Office><Result>100</Result><Products><Product GUID="{91120000-0014-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Professional 2007</Name><Ver>12</Ver><Val>7FFDFFED7E25EBE</Val><Hash>WyI/MHtek6zQcqJwgNn6vvufTgk=</Hash><Pid>81605-863-8742016-65099</Pid><PidType>8</PidType></Product></Products><Applications><App Id="15" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="16" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="18" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="19" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1A" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1B" Version="12" Result="100"/></Applications></Office 

     

    You're already aware that Windows is non-genuine, so I won't bore you with the details :)
    As far as I can tell, Office looks Good - certainly it's validating as OK today.
    The question is, did you get it from the same vendor or from a reputable one? One good sign is that it's Office Pro, rather than Office Pro Plus - which is the one usually sold by pirates.
     
    MS monitors - but it cannot do anything about what eBay allows to be sold. In order to act against any vendor, it has to purchase from that vendor, and then test the product, then complain to eBay and the courts. All that takes time and money - and then the vendor simply changes his online ID, and starts again, for almost no cost.
     
    HTH?
     
    p.s. - Darin will be looking over the groups on Monday (hopefully), and will be able to check in more detail than we can, so hang on, if you can, until then :)
     
     

     
     

    --
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:59 AM
  • The question is, did you get it from the same vendor or from a reputable one?
     

    Other vendor. Price: too good to be true. Yet, I know I have sold stuff on Ebay for prices that were too good to be true too. Sometimes a real bargain is a real bargain; sometimes you loose some money. Dishonest sellers are, sadly enough, part of the game.

    MS monitors - but it cannot do anything about what eBay allows to be sold. In order to act against any vendor, it has to purchase from that vendor, and then test the product, then complain to eBay and the courts. All that takes time and money - and then the vendor simply changes his online ID, and starts again, for almost no cost.

    Thanks for the clarification on the monitoring part. It sounds very reasonable.

    HTH?

    You were very helpful. Thanks.

     
    p.s. - Darin will be looking over the groups on Monday (hopefully), and will be able to check in more detail than we can, so hang on, if you can, until then :)

    I'll check this thread next week for more detailed information (if available).

    Gert

    Saturday, June 19, 2010 11:13 AM
  • "gjdeboom" wrote in message news:26fe9dbb-204d-459d-86ae-40087eda791c...
    The question is, did you get it from the same vendor or from a reputable one?
     

    Other vendor. Price: too good to be true. Yet, I know I have sold stuff on Ebay for prices that were too good to be true too. Sometimes a real bargain is a real bargain; sometimes you loose some money. Dishonest sellers are, sadly enough, part of the game.

     


    Good Luck! As you say - sometimes, things work out right :)

    --
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, June 19, 2010 11:18 AM
  • Hello gjdeboom,

    You wrote, "I now have strong doubts about the status of my Office version. It still validates at the moment. From the forum I learned it could be a non blocked MSDN or Volume License that will soon be blocked too."

    What is creating the strong doubt?

    Did you buy just a product key, or did you buy a full retail package (clear plastic rounded corner package with pivoting tray, Certificate of Authenticity on the package top, hologrammed installation disc(s), Product Key printed on the yellow-orange Proof of License sticker inside)?


    Buy Office 2007 Now, Get Office 2010 Free http://office2010.microsoft.com/en-us/tech-guarantee/microsoft-office-2010-technology-guarantee-FX101825695.aspx?CTT=97
    Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:22 AM
  • Wat is creating the strong doubt?

    Did you buy just a product key, or did you buy a full retail package?

    I did buy just a product key. I didn't find that suspicious because the Microsoft web shop also offers downloadable versions. Also I thought that Ebay was actively monitored by Microsoft. After my Windows Ultimate gave 'not genuine' warnings I searched the web and learned a lot about counterfeit software. 

    Now I understand I only have a little chance my Office key is a valid one.

    Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:57 PM
  • Hello gjdeboom,

    Please understand that the ONLY legitimate source for Microsoft software sold as a download, and ONLY legitimate source for the sale of product keys only, is Microsoft itself in association with its digital distribution partner Digital River.  ANY OTHER source of downloaded Microsoft software or standalone product keys marketed to average consumers is an illegitimate source.

    So, based on the above, your purchase of the Office product key was made from a seller who had no authority to sell such a key, so technically your software is nongenuine.  The good news is that, for the moment, your Office product key is passing validation.  Depending upon how many times the eBay seller has sold or will continue to sell the key to others, your product key may survive for years to come or it may be flagged by the Microsoft servers as nongenuine for being abused.  There's really no way to know for sure.


    Buy Office 2007 Now, Get Office 2010 Free http://office2010.microsoft.com/en-us/tech-guarantee/microsoft-office-2010-technology-guarantee-FX101825695.aspx?CTT=97
    • Marked as answer by gjdeboom Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:02 AM
    Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:01 PM
  • Please understand that the ONLY legitimate source for Microsoft software sold as a download, and ONLY legitimate source for the sale of product keys only, is Microsoft itself in association with its digital distribution partner Digital River.  ANY OTHER source of downloaded Microsoft software or standalone product keys marketed to average consumers is an illegitimate source.


    I remembered having read something about this. I googled some and came up with this one:

    http://www.usedsoft.com/en/images/pdf/presseinfo/usedSoft_PM_EV_gegen_MS_Final_engl.pdf

    So I don't think this is true.

    So, based on the above, your purchase of the Office product key was made from a seller who had no authority to sell such a key, so technically your software is nongenuine.  The good news is that, for the moment, your Office product key is passing validation.  Depending upon how many times the eBay seller has sold or will continue to sell the key to others, your product key may survive for years to come or it may be flagged by the Microsoft servers as nongenuine for being abused.  There's really no way to know for sure.

    I disagree my software is technically nongenuine. Yet, I do understand I can't get a real answer whether my Office is legit or not. I've marked your message as answer. 

    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:02 AM
  • Dan is perfectly correct to say that the ONLY legal source of Keys without accompanying disks is MS - it's a condition of the License that ALL disks and/or hardware that come with the license be sold with the license and key.

    Your link has no bearing whatever on that, as afar as I can see - especially if you don' live in Germany :)

    Your software is not 'technically' illegal - it IS illegal. You bought the key i breach of the terms of the license. There is no get-around for that, except to claim a refund from the vendor, and then buy a legal copy of the software - from a reputable store.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:15 AM
  • Dan is perfectly correct to say that the ONLY legal source of Keys without accompanying disks is MS - it's a condition of the License that ALL disks and/or hardware that come with the license be sold with the license and key.

    Your link has no bearing whatever on that, as afar as I can see - especially if you don' live in Germany :)

    Your software is not 'technically' illegal - it IS illegal. You bought the key i breach of the terms of the license. There is no get-around for that, except to claim a refund from the vendor, and then buy a legal copy of the software - from a reputable store.

    Sorry, I was a bit harsh on Dan. I do appreciate the effort the both of you put into this forum. I took his words like kind of a lecture. Most likely because English is not my native language. An easy excuse that works most of the time :-)

    If Noel and you are right about the key-only offers, then it is a bit odd Microsoft doesn't scan Ebay for "Microsoft Key Only" advertisements and have Ebay delete those automatically (as they are not legal anyway). It at least would have saved me the money. So I'm not convinced. Yet ;-)

    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:30 PM
  • "gjdeboom" wrote in message news:52b17f88-5f80-4f68-b611-5dae12d6d302...

     An easy excuse that works most of the time :-)

    If Noel and you are right about the key-only offers, then it is a bit odd Microsoft doesn't scan Ebay for "Microsoft Key Only" advertisements and have Ebay delete those automatically (as they are not legal anyway). It at least would have saved me the money. So I'm not convinced. Yet ;-)


    Hey, it's the kind of excuse I like to use as well - but your English looks as good as mine, and it IS my native language (unlike Dan's - he only speaks Merkin <g>)
     
    Unfortunately, if MS did that it would be seen by some as restraint-of-trade (I believe eBay is one of those).
    The only way that MS can take action is to actually buy the product on offer, test it, and then go through the courts, etc. to get the vendor barred from eBay, and/or arrested - and the vendor then just changes their email addy in the meantime, disappears, and sets up again. It's a cat-and-mouse game that the mouse has every chance of winning until they get too greedy.
    MS spends an enormous amount of money fighting piracy for two reasons.
    1) less piracy means more money for MS
    2) A large proportion of counterfeit software has hacks/cracks/backdoors/etc built in, which leave the purchaser open to all sorts of attack from the pirate, and reduce the safety of everyone on the internet.
    .... and 3) MS ends up supporting the purchaser anyway, one way or the other, so why shouldn't they get paid for it?
     
    Hope that increases the level of conviction?

    --
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:17 AM

  • Hey, it's the kind of excuse I like to use as well - but your English looks as good as mine, and it IS my native language (unlike Dan's - he only speaks Merkin <g>)

    I had to google for ´Merkin´. Found the following definition:

    "Merkin accent is similar to english, but pronouced with a mouthful of Big Mac while scratching their balls."

    Is this the kind of Merkin you meant? <g>

    ...
     
    Hope that increases the level of conviction?

    Convinced enough to leave this forum. Thanks once more.

    Friday, June 25, 2010 6:26 PM
  • "gjdeboom" wrote in message news:2cbd0aea-d103-4396-8cbf-d06d6cd72166...

    I had to google for ´Merkin´. Found the following definition:

    "Merkin accent is similar to english, but pronouced with a mouthful of Big Mac while scratching their balls."

    Is this the kind of Merkin you meant? <g>

     
    ROTFL!!
    That's near enough <gd&r - from Dan!>

    --
     Noel

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:37 AM