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  • So, Technet Plus/SA benefits give you some internal copies of product to use - mainly an IT department sort of thing.  The instructions specifically say not to activate until you KNOW the configuration is what you want, etc...  No activation - no Genuine Advantage - no Windows Update.  How can someone know that the configuration is good without being able to patch the system easily?!?!  Am i missing something?

     

    Thanks

    Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:30 PM

Answers

  • Aw Phillips,

     

    What internal copies are you referering to?

     

    STephen Holm, MS

    Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:15 PM
  • Microsoft Technet Plus comes with full evaluation versions.  Not as many full licenses as what I've seen with MSDN, but there are not supposed to be any restrictions.  Here is the language from the website:

    TechNet Plus Subscription Benefits
    Below are the great features available with a TechNet Plus subscription:

    Microsoft software licensed for evaluation purposes: Evaluate full-version commercial products--without time limits or feature limits, including Windows Vista™ Microsoft Office System and Exchange Server 2007. With full-version software, IT Professionals can make informed decisions about new technologies and deployments at their own pace.
     

    So, it isn't evaluation software in the sense of "try it before you buy it" or time limited. However, even those in-house systems need protection.

     

    Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:28 PM
  • Awphillips,

     

    If you run the magadiag utility on these TechNet licenses, you'll note that they are classified by Microsoft as retail licenses and as such, can be moved from one computer to another or more to the point for your situation, the license is not tied to any particular hardware so you can mix-n-match-n-swap hardware as much as you want.

     

    The advice to not activate until you have worked out the details of a given computer's hardware mix is good general advice, but IMO that advice has been made much less valid precisely because of what you point out---you can't get Windows Updates until you activate and validate.  That creates the Catch-22 you mentioned.  Because the licenses you have are retail, and because the retail license gives you maximim flexibility, the real impact of this Catch-22 is pretty small.  If you do run into a situation where an updates does materially affect the stability of a given mix of hardware, you can always t/s the problem and then just reactivate if the t/s and the fix cause the Product Activation tolerance to be exceeded which will trigger a need to reactivate.

     

    If Sysprep enters into the equation of how you put together XP builds and test computers, there is a way to use Sysprep in Factory mode to apply updates before activating.

    Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:11 PM

All replies

  • Aw Phillips,

     

    What internal copies are you referering to?

     

    STephen Holm, MS

    Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:15 PM
  • Microsoft Technet Plus comes with full evaluation versions.  Not as many full licenses as what I've seen with MSDN, but there are not supposed to be any restrictions.  Here is the language from the website:

    TechNet Plus Subscription Benefits
    Below are the great features available with a TechNet Plus subscription:

    Microsoft software licensed for evaluation purposes: Evaluate full-version commercial products--without time limits or feature limits, including Windows Vista™ Microsoft Office System and Exchange Server 2007. With full-version software, IT Professionals can make informed decisions about new technologies and deployments at their own pace.
     

    So, it isn't evaluation software in the sense of "try it before you buy it" or time limited. However, even those in-house systems need protection.

     

    Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:28 PM
  • Awphillips,

     

    If you run the magadiag utility on these TechNet licenses, you'll note that they are classified by Microsoft as retail licenses and as such, can be moved from one computer to another or more to the point for your situation, the license is not tied to any particular hardware so you can mix-n-match-n-swap hardware as much as you want.

     

    The advice to not activate until you have worked out the details of a given computer's hardware mix is good general advice, but IMO that advice has been made much less valid precisely because of what you point out---you can't get Windows Updates until you activate and validate.  That creates the Catch-22 you mentioned.  Because the licenses you have are retail, and because the retail license gives you maximim flexibility, the real impact of this Catch-22 is pretty small.  If you do run into a situation where an updates does materially affect the stability of a given mix of hardware, you can always t/s the problem and then just reactivate if the t/s and the fix cause the Product Activation tolerance to be exceeded which will trigger a need to reactivate.

     

    If Sysprep enters into the equation of how you put together XP builds and test computers, there is a way to use Sysprep in Factory mode to apply updates before activating.

    Thursday, July 19, 2007 4:11 PM