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  • why the users are suffering, like i have purchased my computer from a vendor in pakistan, now iam in Denmark and can't contact them or force them for that why they have installed a windows , which after few days has started displyaing message for me to purchase a genuine key.......

    Who suffers? only user ..........why?

    vendors are making money....................why should i pay more?

    Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:31 PM

Answers

  •  Cut-Me-Own-Throat Weasel wrote:
     Dan at IT Associates wrote:
    It is one of those things in life you learn the hard way so that next time you won't make the same mistake.

    That fills me with confidence.

    Why, if I install more than so many times, then, is WGDA's solution to buy a new key?

    I have no idea what "WGDA" is.  Windows Product Activation (PA) monitors whether a given installation of XP has been moved to a different set of hardware, and also keeps track of whether a given Product Key is being activated outside of typical patterns of usage.  Calling in to a Product Activation Center gives MS an opportunity to verify compliance with the End User Licensing Agreement in circumstances that warrant a check.

     Cut-Me-Own-Throat Weasel wrote:


    At the current state, I have to ring up the Customer 'Service' line in India, and go through a 5-10 minute rigmarole that leaves me quite ratty. Once I decided to ask why I have to go through this rubbish each and every flaming time. The answer was fantastic.

    "It helps Microsoft, Sir"

    Excuse me? I don't want to help MS. They've got enough cash to look after themselves. I can't afford a flaming LAN cable atm, let alone a new licience just because WGDA thinks it a good idea.

    Why does it surprise you that a commercial organization would take steps to protect its investment in intellectual property?

    Computer enthusiasts like you will by definition encounter the "speedbumps" that are put in place to help curb abuse because they are using their computers and their software in a very agressive and active manner, doing a lot of reinstallations and making a lot of hardware changes.  Since enthusiasts are outside of the norm as far as patterns of usage go, they soon learn to accept these minor speedbumps as just another thing to be accommodated.  5-10 minutes to do a phone activation is not the end of the world you know.

    If you are using the license for XP that you have in accordance with the EULA, there will never be a need for you to afford a new license.

    Friday, August 25, 2006 3:14 PM

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  • Aikham,

    For the same reason the person who ends up with counterfeit currency suffers.

    The bank will not replace the counterfeit currency with real currency.  (Although MS will replace hi-quality counterfeit copies of Windows with real copies for free, if you submit a report and qualify.)

    It is one of those things in life you learn the hard way so that next time you won't make the same mistake.

    Wednesday, August 23, 2006 3:23 PM
  •  Dan at IT Associates wrote:
    It is one of those things in life you learn the hard way so that next time you won't make the same mistake.
    That fills me with confidence.

    Why, if I install more than so many times, then, is WGDA's solution to buy a new key?

    At the current state, I have to ring up the Customer 'Service' line in India, and go through a 5-10 minute rigmarole that leaves me quite ratty. Once I decided to ask why I have to go through this rubbish each and every flaming time. The answer was fantastic.

    "It helps Microsoft, Sir"

    Excuse me? I don't want to help MS. They've got enough cash to look after themselves. I can't afford a flaming LAN cable atm, let alone a new licience just because WGDA thinks it a good idea.
    Friday, August 25, 2006 9:35 AM
  • If you are having a WGA related problem, please follow this diagnostic troubleshooting procedure:

    1. Download and run the MGA Diagnostic Tool: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 

    2. After running the MGA Diagnostic Tool, click
        on the "Windows" tab and then click on "Copy to Clipboard".

    3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the
        "WGA Validation Problems" forum and paste the
        results of the WGA Diagnostic Data in a detailed post.
        http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25

    4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and
        recommend an appropriate solution.

    Friday, August 25, 2006 2:40 PM
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  •  Cut-Me-Own-Throat Weasel wrote:
     Dan at IT Associates wrote:
    It is one of those things in life you learn the hard way so that next time you won't make the same mistake.

    That fills me with confidence.

    Why, if I install more than so many times, then, is WGDA's solution to buy a new key?

    I have no idea what "WGDA" is.  Windows Product Activation (PA) monitors whether a given installation of XP has been moved to a different set of hardware, and also keeps track of whether a given Product Key is being activated outside of typical patterns of usage.  Calling in to a Product Activation Center gives MS an opportunity to verify compliance with the End User Licensing Agreement in circumstances that warrant a check.

     Cut-Me-Own-Throat Weasel wrote:


    At the current state, I have to ring up the Customer 'Service' line in India, and go through a 5-10 minute rigmarole that leaves me quite ratty. Once I decided to ask why I have to go through this rubbish each and every flaming time. The answer was fantastic.

    "It helps Microsoft, Sir"

    Excuse me? I don't want to help MS. They've got enough cash to look after themselves. I can't afford a flaming LAN cable atm, let alone a new licience just because WGDA thinks it a good idea.

    Why does it surprise you that a commercial organization would take steps to protect its investment in intellectual property?

    Computer enthusiasts like you will by definition encounter the "speedbumps" that are put in place to help curb abuse because they are using their computers and their software in a very agressive and active manner, doing a lot of reinstallations and making a lot of hardware changes.  Since enthusiasts are outside of the norm as far as patterns of usage go, they soon learn to accept these minor speedbumps as just another thing to be accommodated.  5-10 minutes to do a phone activation is not the end of the world you know.

    If you are using the license for XP that you have in accordance with the EULA, there will never be a need for you to afford a new license.

    Friday, August 25, 2006 3:14 PM
  • You shouldn't have to re-activate after a few simple hardware changes, thats the problem, i've changed out a simple video card before and have had windows XP come up telling me I had to reactivate, and i've even have it come up when i disabled a serial port in the BIOS! Eventually I got fed up enough and went back to windows 2000 where I don't have to deal with all that stuff
    Saturday, September 2, 2006 5:04 AM
  • Lead head,

    XP allows up to three hadware "votes" to change before it will ask for a simple reactivation for the fourth change.

    Saturday, September 2, 2006 5:20 PM