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  • son finished building computer last week and installed oem windows7 onto the hard drive. decided to add ssd this week and copied windows from same oem disc but it would not authenticate upon completion. formatted hd to remove original windows7 but when i went to boot up it still shows 2 copies of windows to choose from. i would like to put windows7 onto ssd only (i heard it makes the machine faster)  but i want to make sure i can get updates and support. bought the oem disc when i bought computer kit from newegg. install on ssd seemed to go ok til it couldn't validate. when he made a restore disc  it said it needed 32gb but after 2 cd's it said it was done. he said i can't really check whats on disc so i won't know if its a worker til i go to use it. as you can tell i know nothing about computers. any help would be appreciated.

    Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:14 AM

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  • "one blind squirrel" wrote in message news:db592755-ed21-4c31-9f8f-9b03be074405...

    so did i just waste $130 ? i thought oem meant you couldn't ask them for assistance. that you had to install yourself.


     
     
    No – MS has never yet been known to rescind a license for this reason (which doesn’t mean that they couldn’t).
     
     
    You just need to be careful about how you use it – changing the motherboard *will* invalidate it.
     
    Changing the Hard drive is fine – but  am far from being an expert on SSD’s, and can’t comment on Colin’s comment about the different geometries, except to say that I believe that the exact methods used for the re-imaging will make a difference, although it may not be as critical as Colin seems to think.
     
    You should post for assistance on that in the Windows Answers forums, where experts can assist.
     
    There should be no problems about re-activating on the initial/existing motherboard, but you may have to use telephone activation and speak to an operator.
     
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:33 AM
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:02 PM
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  • "one blind squirrel" wrote in message news:8034eb43-edd6-4628-9ea8-6d904163a091...

    son finished building computer last week and installed oem windows7 onto the hard drive. decided to add ssd this week and copied windows from same oem disc but it would not authenticate upon completion. formatted hd to remove original windows7 but when i went to boot up it still shows 2 copies of windows to choose from. i would like to put windows7 onto ssd only (i heard it makes the machine faster)  but i want to make sure i can get updates and support. bought the oem disc when i bought computer kit from newegg. install on ssd seemed to go ok til it couldn't validate. when he made a restore disc  it said it needed 32gb but after 2 cd's it said it was done. he said i can't really check whats on disc so i won't know if its a worker til i go to use it. as you can tell i know nothing about computers. any help would be appreciated.

    To properly analyse and solve problems with Activation and Validation, we need to see a full copy of the report produced by the MGADiag tool (download and save to desktop - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 )
    Once saved, run the tool.
    Click on the Continue button, which will produce the report.
    To copy the report to your response, click on the Copy button in the tool (ignore any error messages at this point), and then paste (using either r-click/Paste, or Ctrl+V ) into your response.
      - **in your own thread**, please
     
    Please also state the Version and Edition of Windows quoted on your COA sticker (if you have one) on the case of your machine, but do NOT quote the Key on the sticker!
     
     
    As far as the the boot options are concerned , you can use the options in MSCONFIG to remove the inactive one – but if you remove the wrong one, you could be stuffed, so BE CAREFUL!
     
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:25 AM
    Moderator
  • You cannot just image Windows from an hdd to an ssd.  The drive geometry is completely different.  An ssd does not use cylinders and sectors.  The proper way to install on an ssd is a clean install.  The drive controller will then lay out the proper drive geometry.

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:12 PM
    Answerer
  • hi. i'm sure he used the oem disc to copy onto the ssd but it wouldn't validate when he was done. the original load still seems to be in the hard drive as when i boot up it gives me 2 choices of windows7 although he said he put hard drive thru disc format.
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:28 PM
  • hi. ran the diagnostic tool but was unable to copy it. i will run it again and write down all the info and post here.
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:29 PM
  • The tool copies the report to the clipboard.  After clicking Continue to make the report just use Ctrl-V to copy the report into your reply here.  Ignore any error message.  That is about file creation, which you aren't doing.

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:34 PM
    Answerer
  • Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->


    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-PCQC8-V783X-7H6WJ
    Windows Product Key Hash: Lqe0n+ccW38dHErLR6nX2C39eBI=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-9045271-16157
    Windows Product ID Type: 3
    Windows License Type: OEM System Builder
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {B0F9365E-63E0-42CF-9ADE-A83BCDE244CC}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
    TTS Error: 
    Validation Diagnostic: 
    Resolution Status: N/A


    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002


    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002


    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002


    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3


    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed


    File Scan Data-->
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watadminsvc.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\npwatweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watux.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]


    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{B0F9365E-63E0-42CF-9ADE-A83BCDE244CC}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-7H6WJ</PKey><PID>00371-OEM-9045271-16157</PID><PIDType>3</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2678282503-4154131862-219625639</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>To be filled by O.E.M.</Manufacturer><Model>To be filled by O.E.M.</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>0813</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="7"/><Date>20111024000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>D2533707018400FC</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Eastern Standard Time(GMT-05:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  


    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002


    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514


    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_COA_NSLP channel
    Activation ID: e120e868-3df2-464a-95a0-b52fa5ada4bf
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00180-452-716157-02-1033-7601.0000-0572012
    Installation ID: 011266428863355165123093194746781120192321843170934972
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 7H6WJ
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 42840 minute(s) (29 day(s))
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 2/26/2012 11:46:12 PM


    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: N/A
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: N/A
    ActiveX: Not Registered - 0x80040154
    Admin Service: Not Registered - 0x80040154
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:




    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: LgAAAAEAAQABAAEAAQACAAAAAQABAAEAln1YAFzWRlIW0h7HrItiPcrEttogIQ==


    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A


    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information: 
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC ALASKA A M I
      FACP ALASKA A M I
      HPET ALASKA A M I
      MCFG ALASKA A M I
      SSDT AMD   POWERNOW


    cool.ty.
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:02 PM
  • "one blind squirrel" wrote in message news:dcc4889e-1270-46e2-b322-3b8bcf4dc586...
    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->


    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-PCQC8-V783X-7H6WJ
    Windows Product Key Hash: Lqe0n+ccW38dHErLR6nX2C39eBI=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-9045271-16157
    Windows Product ID Type: 3
    Windows License Type: OEM System Builder
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048



    File Scan Data-->
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watadminsvc.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\npwatweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watux.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]


    Other data-->
    SYSTEM><Manufacturer>To be filled by O.E.M.</Manufacturer><Model>To be filled by O.E.M.</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>0813</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="7"/><Date>20111024000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS


    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514


    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_COA_NSLP channel
    Partial Product Key: 7H6WJ
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 42840 minute(s) (29 day(s))
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 2/26/2012 11:46:12 PM


    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
     
    This installation appears to have been done from a Direct OEM’s Free Upgrade disk – which can only be legitimately used on the original manufacturer’s hardware.
     
    The motherboard here appears to be a Retail one.
     
    Unless you have a spare legitimate Full Retail license for Windows, I don’t see that there is any way that you will be able to activate this installation.
     
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:23 PM
    Moderator
  • i don't know about free. it cost me $130 from newegg. didn't say it was an upgrade. the box says windows7 professional...intended for distribution with a new pc (pc was from newegg kit, disc purchased separately(with order). says includes windows anytime upgrade. includes service pack1  and is 64 bit.
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:43 PM
  • The Product Details tab for OEM products on NewEgg also state that OEM System Builder copies are only for installation on a computer being sold to a customer, which you are not doing.  Go back and read it. 

    Use of this OEM System Builder Channel software is subject to the terms of the Microsoft OEM System Builder License. This software is intended for pre-installation on a new personal computer for resale. This OEM System Builder Channel software requires the assembler to provide end user support for the Windows software and cannot be transferred to another computer once it is installed. To acquire Windows software with support provided by Microsoft please see our full package "Retail" product offerings.

    The System Builder license printed on the wrapper on the product also states that it is for system builders, not end users.  A system builder as defined by the license sells computers to third parties. 

    'System Builder' means an original equipment manufacturer, an assembler,
    a refurbisher, or a software pre-installer that sells the Customer System(s) to
    a third party.

    A person who builds his own comptuer is not a system builder.  He is a do-it-yourselfer.  You need to purchase a full license copy of Windows.


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.



    Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:54 PM
    Answerer
  • so did i just waste $130 ? i thought oem meant you couldn't ask them for assistance. that you had to install yourself. 


    Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:18 PM
  • You bought the wrong product, if that's what you mean.

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:49 PM
    Answerer
  • "one blind squirrel" wrote in message news:db592755-ed21-4c31-9f8f-9b03be074405...

    so did i just waste $130 ? i thought oem meant you couldn't ask them for assistance. that you had to install yourself.


     
     
    No – MS has never yet been known to rescind a license for this reason (which doesn’t mean that they couldn’t).
     
     
    You just need to be careful about how you use it – changing the motherboard *will* invalidate it.
     
    Changing the Hard drive is fine – but  am far from being an expert on SSD’s, and can’t comment on Colin’s comment about the different geometries, except to say that I believe that the exact methods used for the re-imaging will make a difference, although it may not be as critical as Colin seems to think.
     
    You should post for assistance on that in the Windows Answers forums, where experts can assist.
     
    There should be no problems about re-activating on the initial/existing motherboard, but you may have to use telephone activation and speak to an operator.
     
     

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:33 AM
    Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:02 PM
    Moderator
  • will try that. thanks very much for your help.
    Monday, February 27, 2012 12:29 AM