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Multipoint video in Live Meeting (OCS 2007) RRS feed

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    Hello,

     

    We've just got our OCS 2007 standard up and running, and it's working fine. Except there's one thing we haven't been able to achieve.

    We're a geographically distributed team of 9 people who would like to use our webcams so we can all see each other at the same time in Live Meeting. But we can only get one video feed on the screen at any given time - we can each pick which camera we want to look at, but not see more than 1 at a time (plus our own with Picture-in-Picture).

     

    Is this a limitation of Live Meeting 2007 / OCS 2007? A friend of mine claims that they're using OCS 2007 Enterprise and they can all see each other in Live Meeting without addons.

     

    Can anyone give their 2 cents (and hopefully some pointers) on how we can achieve seeing all attendants at the same time with OCS 2007? Is it a limitation of OCS 2007 Std which upgrading to OCS 2007 Ent can solve? Or does it require additional software? And if so, which and at what price?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Best regards,

    -Allan Jensen

     

    Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:26 PM

All replies

  • OCS Web conferencing or video conferencing only send the Active Speaker by default

    There is no option to see all video streams

    Keep in mind that OCS is designed to work over existing networks and it is a good thing not to have all streams because this generates to much bandwdth

     

    You can have 2 RoundTables connected to a Web conference and see both 360 views

    Monday, June 16, 2008 9:44 PM
  • Look http://www.tandberg.com/products/HD_Video_Conferencing.jsp - all MXP products integrate with OCS 2007 and support Multipoint and Multipart video conferencing.

    Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:20 AM
  •  Allan Jensen wrote:

    We're a geographically distributed team of 9 people who would like to use our webcams so we can all see each other at the same time in Live Meeting. But we can only get one video feed on the screen at any given time - we can each pick which camera we want to look at, but not see more than 1 at a time (plus our own with Picture-in-Picture).

     

    Is this a limitation of Live Meeting 2007 / OCS 2007?

    Yes.

     Allan Jensen wrote:

    A friend of mine claims that they're using OCS 2007 Enterprise and they can all see each other in Live Meeting without addons.

    Your friend is wrong, or you misunderstood him/her.

     Allan Jensen wrote:

    Can anyone give their 2 cents (and hopefully some pointers) on how we can achieve seeing all attendants at the same time with OCS 2007? Is it a limitation of OCS 2007 Std which upgrading to OCS 2007 Ent can solve? Or does it require additional software? And if so, which and at what price?

    You cannot do that with OCS. You need other vendor's conferencing product.

     

    Remember though that seeing all participants (it is called "continuous presence" mode) is extremely bandwidth consuming. Very roughly, required bandwidth is proportional to the square of the number of participants.

    Friday, June 27, 2008 12:25 AM
  • You friend probably uses the Microsoft Roundtable Device

    When this device is used it sends two streams, one is the active speaker and the other stream is the 360 view from the roundtable

    On the other end you can then see all other participants, but it still works the same way you can view only your 360 view and the active 360 view when more than one Roundtable is used in a conference

     

     

    Friday, June 27, 2008 10:57 PM
  •  Jоker wrote:

    Remember though that seeing all participants (it is called "continuous presence" mode) is extremely bandwidth consuming. Very roughly, required bandwidth is proportional to the square of the number of participants.




    This is not entirely correct. Polycom/Tandberg/Radvision MCUs which can integrate with OCS2007 can do full transcoding. This means that you need high bandwidth in the datacenter (where the MCU is located) since all clients connect to the server but each endpoint is only connected to the server not to each other directly. So on the endpoint side you need the same bandwidth as in a point-to-point call - you are getting back one transcoded stream from the server containing all the participants (according to the layout set on the server) so this does not require more bandwidth from the client then a standard ocs-based point-to-point call.
    Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:23 PM