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  • For the past 7 months I've been running a small computer repair operation out of my house to make a little extra money. So far it's been hassle free. Reported a few pirated keys, a shifty Kijiji ad, and fixed everyone's computer along the way. But with this one HP Pavillion PC I've run into a few issues.

    So the HDD failed (Seagate 160GB) so I swapped it out with another (WD 160GB) and used my copy of Windows XP Home Edition to install a fresh install. Well, during the set up progress it wouldn't accept the Product Key from the side of the tower so I figured "Well maybe it's because it can't connect to the internet because I use a Belkin Basic Wireless USB adapter for the PCs I fix so I went through the rest of the install without a hitch.

    Installed the adapter and went to activate Windows using the key and it says that it cannot validate and "activate by telephone" so went through that crazy process of reading off the numbers and it tells me the Product Key isn't genuine... Whatever. So just out of curiosity I used a known pirate key and it said to activate by phone again. Did the crazy number reading and, go figure, it validates. Went to the WGA site and it said it wasn't genuine, naturally. So I reinstalled Windows again without a key and tried the process again with the genuine code and still received the same message to "Activate by Telephone". So I asked the owner if they would consider upgrading to Windows 7, which in short turned out to be an "ABSOLUTELY NOT! DON'T TRY AND HACK YOUR WARES ON ME!" Apparently I designed Windows 7, who knew.

    This person is dead set on keeping this product key, and this version of Windows. So, any suggestions? I've tried everything I could imagine to no avail. Figured actual Microsoft Reps may be able to help me. It is the Product Key that came with the computer (HP Pavillion a1110n) and it is the same version of Windows XP Home Edition x86. I refuse to pay HP for a couple of recovery disc.

    (Also, on a side note. I recently bought an XPS M1530 used off a customer who was planning on throwing it out. There was a pirated copy of XP on it so I formatted the HDD and checked the bottom for a Windows sticker which turned out to be Windows Vista Home Premium. However, the sticker is ripped and a small portion of the code is missing. If you think you can help me, I'll message you with the portion of the code I have. There are exactly 4 characters missing, and I can even provide a picture of the sticker if you need. Since I want my repair business to be taken seriously, I wanted to be absolutely genuine. I have a netbook for around the house (Windows 7 Starter), a Desktop (Windows 7 Home Premium), a Laptop (Windows XP Home Edition), another Laptop (Windows Vista Home Premium), and the XPS (Hopefully Windows Vista Home Premium))

    Anyways, if you can help me I'd appreciate it a ton. 
    Saturday, May 7, 2011 8:16 PM

Answers

  • Try using the Windows Product Key Update Tool for Windows XP (with the product key affixed to the computer), then "activate by phone".


    Carey Frisch

    Monday, May 9, 2011 8:35 PM
    Moderator
  • Hello SnowzSan1,

     

    In a response to Noel you mentioned that the HP computer in question has a CoA for XP Home affixed to it.  In my experience, if you use a genuine Microsoft systembuilder/OEM hologrammed installation disc, Setup will accept the product key printed on the CoA and will run to completion.  (Then as usual, there will be the normal 30 day grace period before the installation will go into reduced functionality mode and require activation.)

    Once setup runs to completion, restart, then start the Activation Wizard.  Choose the option to activate by Telephone.  The automated system will have you enter the 54-digit installation ID, then it will give you a 54 digit activation ID for you to enter into the activation wizard, and then activation will be complete.

     

    If the automated phone system will not activate the installation, rerun the activation wizard and once more select Activate by Telephone.  This time, do not enter or say anything into the system which is supposed to then transfer you to a live activation representative.  Explain that you had to do a clean installation of Windows onto this HP computer, but because you could not locate the correct recovery discs, you instead used a genuine systembuilder/OEM disc and the product key on the genuine CoA that came with the computer.  Ask them to help you activate this installation.

    Monday, May 9, 2011 8:47 PM

All replies

  • "SnowzSan1" wrote in message news:84fd7d46-bd78-4572-996d-94f99c4f548f...
    For the past 7 months I've been running a small computer repair operation out of my house to make a little extra money. So far it's been hassle free. Reported a few pirated keys, a shifty Kijiji ad, and fixed everyone's computer along the way. But with this one HP Pavillion PC I've run into a few issues.

    So the HDD failed (Seagate 160GB) so I swapped it out with another (WD 160GB) and used my copy of Windows XP Home Edition to install a fresh install. Well, during the set up progress it wouldn't accept the Product Key from the side of the tower so I figured "Well maybe it's because it can't connect to the internet because I use a Belkin Basic Wireless USB adapter for the PCs I fix so I went through the rest of the install without a hitch.

    Installed the adapter and went to activate Windows using the key and it says that it cannot validate and "activate by telephone" so went through that crazy process of reading off the numbers and it tells me the Product Key isn't genuine... Whatever.
    <snip>
    Anyways, if you can help me I'd appreciate it a ton. 

    Let's stick to one issue at a time, please :)
    Chances are that you're using the wrong XP disk to install the XP Home.
    Is the COA sticker for XP Home? If so, is the disk you are using an OEM disk, or a Retail disk? (it needs to be an OEM disk with MS hologram).
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, May 7, 2011 9:18 PM
    Moderator
  • Hello SnowzSan1,

    You wrote, " I refuse to pay HP for a couple of recovery disc."

    Tell the customer that one Microsoft-approved method for putting a genuine installation of Windows back onto the computer is to use those recovery discs.  Generally HP discs are relatively inexpensive.  The customer should have provided them to you--what are the chances of getting the customer to pay for the recovery discs?

    The other is to purchase and install a "refurbished pc" license for Windows.


    Saturday, May 7, 2011 9:36 PM
  • "SnowzSan1" wrote in message news:84fd7d46-bd78-4572-996d-94f99c4f548f...
    For the past 7 months I've been running a small computer repair operation out of my house to make a little extra money. So far it's been hassle free. Reported a few pirated keys, a shifty Kijiji ad, and fixed everyone's computer along the way. But with this one HP Pavillion PC I've run into a few issues.

    So the HDD failed (Seagate 160GB) so I swapped it out with another (WD 160GB) and used my copy of Windows XP Home Edition to install a fresh install. Well, during the set up progress it wouldn't accept the Product Key from the side of the tower so I figured "Well maybe it's because it can't connect to the internet because I use a Belkin Basic Wireless USB adapter for the PCs I fix so I went through the rest of the install without a hitch.

    Installed the adapter and went to activate Windows using the key and it says that it cannot validate and "activate by telephone" so went through that crazy process of reading off the numbers and it tells me the Product Key isn't genuine... Whatever.
    <snip>
    Anyways, if you can help me I'd appreciate it a ton. 

    Let's stick to one issue at a time, please :)
    Chances are that you're using the wrong XP disk to install the XP Home.
    Is the COA sticker for XP Home? If so, is the disk you are using an OEM disk, or a Retail disk? (it needs to be an OEM disk with MS hologram).
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Yes the disc is holographic. It was the disc that came with my HP Pavillion a long while ago shortly before Vista came out, and long before manufacturers stopped packaging Windows discs with their PCs. I guess if it's not going to work then the customer is S.O.L. But yes the sticker is for home.
    Saturday, May 7, 2011 9:52 PM
  • Hello SnowzSan1,

    You wrote, " I refuse to pay HP for a couple of recovery disc."

    Tell the customer that one Microsoft-approved method for putting a genuine installation of Windows back onto the computer is to use those recovery discs.  Generally HP discs are relatively inexpensive.  The customer should have povided them to you--what are the chances of getting the customer to pay for the recovery discs?

    The other is to purchase and install a "refurbished pc" license for Windows.

    I priced them out at $17 CAN and the customer is trying to tell me I should have to pay for them... To be honest, this is actually my 64th customer and I've never met someone who felt so self-entitled. But in all actuality I'm only charging $20 CAN for a complete physical PC clean up, reapplying new thermal paste, either fixing or redoing their Windows installation, putting MSE, downloading all updates, checking the status of their hardware and replacing broken parts with parts I have that are similar, and making sure their installations are genuine. Only reason I do it so cheaply is because of a trip I made to the local dump to get rid of garbage from renovations and noticed the immense pile of computers that people throw out because they 'stopped working' and it's usually cheaper to buy a new one. So I offer cheap repairs to people who can't afford that kind of useless spending.

    But anyways, the customer refused to buy the disc herself. So with the code she has though, is there any other options other than purchasing recovery disc? There is no way I can use the code on the side? It's worked SEVERAL times before with Acers, Dells, Patriots, eMachines, and even an Alienware. What makes this code so irritatingly different? 
    Saturday, May 7, 2011 9:59 PM
  • "SnowzSan1" wrote in message news:d2543117-5602-42cb-ab9d-198d5fa7aa01...
    Yes the disc is holographic. It was the disc that came with my HP Pavillion a long while ago shortly before Vista came out, and long before manufacturers stopped packaging Windows discs with their PCs. I guess if it's not going to work then the customer is S.O.L. But yes the sticker is for home.

    If your disk came with the computer then it's almost certainly not an MS disk, but an HP Recovery disk, which is only valid for the system for which it was designed.
     
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Sunday, May 8, 2011 7:23 AM
    Moderator
  • "SnowzSan1" wrote in message news:33fff1bd-fb45-42d0-9631-0f0907a0f238...
     
    But anyways, the customer refused to buy the disc herself. So with the code she has though, is there any other options other than purchasing recovery disc? There is no way I can use the code on the side? It's worked SEVERAL times before with Acers, Dells, Patriots, eMachines, and even an Alienware. What makes this code so irritatingly different? 

    My advice would be to tell the client to put her PC where the sun don't shine :)
    In all probability she'll end up as your biggest problem in the longer term, as whatever you do will not be right - leave her to the tender mercies of the likes of BestBuy, so she can learn what the real world is all about.
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Sunday, May 8, 2011 7:26 AM
    Moderator
  • I find this a little outrageous. I'll just convince her to switch to Linux.
    Monday, May 9, 2011 7:57 PM
  • Try using the Windows Product Key Update Tool for Windows XP (with the product key affixed to the computer), then "activate by phone".


    Carey Frisch

    Monday, May 9, 2011 8:35 PM
    Moderator
  • Hello SnowzSan1,

     

    In a response to Noel you mentioned that the HP computer in question has a CoA for XP Home affixed to it.  In my experience, if you use a genuine Microsoft systembuilder/OEM hologrammed installation disc, Setup will accept the product key printed on the CoA and will run to completion.  (Then as usual, there will be the normal 30 day grace period before the installation will go into reduced functionality mode and require activation.)

    Once setup runs to completion, restart, then start the Activation Wizard.  Choose the option to activate by Telephone.  The automated system will have you enter the 54-digit installation ID, then it will give you a 54 digit activation ID for you to enter into the activation wizard, and then activation will be complete.

     

    If the automated phone system will not activate the installation, rerun the activation wizard and once more select Activate by Telephone.  This time, do not enter or say anything into the system which is supposed to then transfer you to a live activation representative.  Explain that you had to do a clean installation of Windows onto this HP computer, but because you could not locate the correct recovery discs, you instead used a genuine systembuilder/OEM disc and the product key on the genuine CoA that came with the computer.  Ask them to help you activate this installation.

    Monday, May 9, 2011 8:47 PM