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  • Now that the long-anticipated changes in forums for Windows Live are taking place, when can we expect NntpBridge to grant NNTP access to the new forums?

    Noel
    Monday, March 8, 2010 8:35 PM

Answers

  • I believe this was fixed.

    Up to a point, yes. After consolidating most of the forums dealing with Windows Live in the Windows Live Solution Center, that venue operated until the end of March 2012, when the forums - if not their content - were subsumed under Answers under the baffling heading Hotmail, Messenger and SkyDrive. Those looking for forums dealing with Windows Live Essentials or Windows Live Photo Gallery, for example, can be excused for getting lost.

    There are still Windows Live forums here at social.microsoft, some of which still attract posts. They deserve to be archived and rendered read only. 

    As regards the original question, WLSC was never accessible via NNTP. The experimental version of Community Bridge for Answers is making it possible for a restricted group of users to access the forums via NNTP.

    Sorry I didn't wrap this discussion up earlier.


    Noel


    Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:49 AM

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  • > Now that the long-anticipated changes in forums for Windows Live are
    > taking place, when can we expect NntpBridge to grant NNTP access to the
    > new forums?


    Where? Not here?

    <title> Windows Live Forums </title>
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/group/LiveAnswers

    And where are those on the bridge anyway? Not here?

    C:\>find /i "live" telnet.txt

    ---------- TELNET.TXT
    Msdn.pt-BR.windowslivept 1 48 y
    Msdn.de-DE.windows_livede 1 83 y
    Msdn.en-US.liveframework 1 3495 y
    Msdn.en-US.livelabsvolta 1 333 y
    Technet.en-US.onlineserviceslivemeeting 1 245 y
    Technet.ko-KR.livecommunciationsserverko 1 442 y
    Technet.es-ES.windowslivees 1 3240 y
    Technet.ko-KR.livecommunciationsserverko 1 442 y
    Microsoft.fr-FR.windowslivemailfr 1 242 y
    Microsoft.en-US.LiveMeshMobile 1 1112 y
    Microsoft.it-IT.windowsliveessentialsit 1 306 y
    Microsoft.zh-CN.officelivemeetingzhchs 1 70 y
    Microsoft.en-US.webmasterlivesearchapi2.0 1 369 y
    Microsoft.en-US.MyLiveCom 1 396 y
    Microsoft.fr-FR.windowslivemessengerfr 1 251 y
    Microsoft.en-US.LiveMesh 1 12135 y

    C:\>


    Oh. Here.

    C:\>find /i "answers.en-us.wl" telnet.txt

    ---------- TELNET.TXT
    Answers.en-US.wlmedia 1 5787 y
    Answers.en-US.wlevents 1 4636 y
    Answers.en-US.wlfamily 1 2091 y
    Answers.en-US.wlsync 1 3619 y

    C:\>


    BTW I still don't have a clue what wlevents are. ; }


    Robert
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    Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:14 AM
  • Oh. Here.

    C:\>find /i "answers.en-us.wl" telnet.txt

    ---------- TELNET.TXT
    Answers.en-US.wlmedia 1 5787 y
    Answers.en-US.wlevents 1 4636 y
    Answers.en-US.wlfamily 1 2091 y
    Answers.en-US.wlsync 1 3619 y
     
    Robert, please pay attention. Those four groups are the only Live (English language) ones that made it to the Answers site last year, on a clearly experimental basis. There are (were?) several others on other less accessible servers (like microsoft.en-us.writergeneral and 16 different ones for OneCare). Now the Live stuff is being (has been?) shifted over to a new-look Solutions site, where Hotmail discussions have lived since 2008. You'd be well advised to take a stiff dose of your favourite fluid before venturing over there. It looks like they baulked at integrating four years' worth of newsgroup posts because they have tried to categorize questions about specific applications - there are seven categories under Mail Client, for example. That's a great pity, because there's a great deal of wisdom and experience stashed away in those groups.
     
    The new forums are not, as yet, available via Bridge.
    BTW I still don't have a clue what wlevents are. ; }
    From a November 2008 press release:

    > Windows Live Events. Create and send out online event invitations and host event-related interactions — even share photos after the eve t takes place. Windows Live Events will offer ready-made templates for a variety of common events, and integrates with multiple online calendars and the new “What’s New” feed in Windo ive Messenger.

    And from an announcement in August 2009:
    http://cid-275b34cd 4fcbe487.home.events.live.com/

    > On September 3rd, 2009, we will begin retiring the Windows Live Events service. As of this date, you will no longer be able to create new Events using Windows Live Events. Existing Events that you have already created will remain active until April 2010.

    So there were obviously not enough people inclined to 'host event-related interactions', whatever that may mean.

     


    Noel
    Tuesday, March 9, 2010 11:05 AM
  • fyi, you can translate the newsreader group names into forums urls pretty easily

    Answers.en-US.wlsync

    becomes

    http://social.Answers.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/wlsync/threads


    Community Forums Program Manager
    Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:47 AM
    Answerer
  •  
    Robert, please pay attention. Those four groups are the only Live (English language) ones that made it to the Answers site last year, on a clearly experimental basis. There are (were?) several others on other less accessible servers (like microsoft.en-us.writergeneral and 16 different ones for OneCare). Now the Live stuff is being (has been?) shifted over to a new-look Solutions site, where Hotmail discussions have lived since 2008. You'd be well advised to take a stiff dose of your favourite fluid before venturing over there.
     
    Where?   I used your information to find those.  Is this something that you have just discovered or did you give me the wrong link before?   <eg>
     
    Oh.  Ok.  I see it now.  I had backed out one level too far.  In the middle level from your link I now see:
    The Windows Live forums are transitioning to Windows Live Solution Center on Monday, 3/8/2010.
     
    That wasn't there the first time you showed it to me and I hadn't been back.   Thanks for the info.
     
     
    Robert
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    Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:39 AM
  • Thanks, Brent - yes, I'd noticed that useful correlation. It does have its inherent dangers, though. There are several cases where the URL does not reflect the true nature of the forum (Windows Update, for example, which deals with all aspects of WU, not just on Vista). Perhaps that's why the WLSC people chose just to use unwieldy GUIDs as forum URLs.
     

    Noel
    Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:11 PM
  • Nice to know you're now as confused as everyone else ;)
     
    How would you post a question about Windows Live Photo Gallery? You could try Answers.en-US.wlmedia if you had NntpBridge, or microsoft.public.windows.live.photogallery if you didn't, or http ://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wlmedia/threads if you prefer to use a web UI and haven't heard about any change, or perhaps http://windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?forumid=cafb0556-8959- 49b9-afeb-635314aa02f3 if you have.
     
    [Later] To be fair, there is an inconspicuous announcement near the top of the AnswersWLPG site, but if I follow the 'Ask a question' prompts, I would be directed to the X P Pictures and Video forum (because the only other possible choice would be P rograms) instead of the new Live forum. I suppose that wizard will get revamped soon, though, and the msnews NG will presumably be allowed to fade away.
     
    I'm still amazed how even reasonably articulate native speakers manage to select a spectacularly wrong forum for their questions.
     
    Now I'm going to practice posting images here...

    Noel
    Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:28 PM
  •  

    fyi, you can translate the newsreader group names into forums urls pretty easily

    Answers.en-US.wlsync

    becomes

    http://social.Answers.microsoft.com/forums/en-US/wlsync/threads

     
    Brent,
     
    That is not the point.  Why would a bridge user find  wlsync  in the first place?   The example I gave is searching for  live  and finding some which could be apparently differentiated mostly by language.  Using that search strategy I can imagine a bridge user pressing  Ctrl-w  typing  en-us live  and deciding to post questions about his  WL consumer products in  Microsoft.en-US.MyLiveCom.   I agree that if someone considered instead the possibility of representing the product by  wl  they might be directed more appropriately.  That possibility seems less likely to me but could easily be avoided by clearer naming or at least including clarifying information in the Description field (what an idea!).  BTW how about including the full URL there and modifying WLMail so it is clickable?   ; )
     
     
    Robert
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    Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:19 PM
  • I believe this was fixed. Thanks!

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:56 AM
    Owner
  • I believe this was fixed.

    Up to a point, yes. After consolidating most of the forums dealing with Windows Live in the Windows Live Solution Center, that venue operated until the end of March 2012, when the forums - if not their content - were subsumed under Answers under the baffling heading Hotmail, Messenger and SkyDrive. Those looking for forums dealing with Windows Live Essentials or Windows Live Photo Gallery, for example, can be excused for getting lost.

    There are still Windows Live forums here at social.microsoft, some of which still attract posts. They deserve to be archived and rendered read only. 

    As regards the original question, WLSC was never accessible via NNTP. The experimental version of Community Bridge for Answers is making it possible for a restricted group of users to access the forums via NNTP.

    Sorry I didn't wrap this discussion up earlier.


    Noel


    Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:49 AM