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Migrating old posts from the Newsgroups RRS feed

  • General discussion

  • I can appreciate why the old posts need to come over if the Newsgroups are being closed down but why can't this be done under their orginal post date? Whoever's running these Forums must have control of the database, so this surely can't be too big a problem.

    Having just had a large number of such posts 'migrated' into the EW Forum the genuinely new posts have disappeared down the page structure and are difficult to locate and doing so is a big time waster.

    Ian
    http://www.ew-resource.co.uk
    http://www.fp-resource.co.uk
    Ian Haynes
    Thursday, March 6, 2008 4:31 PM

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  • Ian Haynes said:

    I can appreciate why the old posts need to come over if the Newsgroups are being closed down but why can't this be done under their orginal post date? Whoever's running these Forums must have control of the database, so this surely can't be too big a problem.

    Having just had a large number of such posts 'migrated' into the EW Forum the genuinely new posts have disappeared down the page structure and are difficult to locate and doing so is a big time waster.

    Ian
    http://www.ew-resource.co.uk
    http://www.fp-resource.co.uk


    Ian Haynes



    Totally agree. Everyone is frustrated by this. One of my colleagues who just started participating in these forums was complaining about this to me earlier today too.

    Anna
    Thursday, March 6, 2008 7:02 PM
  • Yep, I agree too.

    We do plan to build a true newsgroup migration solution later this year that will preserve post date and do something smart with the user name (e.g. Newsgroup user “Lauren” in archived newsgroup “microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner).

    For now the posts are being migrated manually by some contractors. We did this to "seed" the Expression forums with good content.
    Jeff Day, Community Platform GPM
    Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:23 PM
  • Whilst there is goodness with seeding content, the side effects should be considered. Our current posters are not going to get their answers as we cannot find their posts in this mess.

    I suggest we stop migrating until we can properly control this issue and migrate in a meaninful way that does not disrupt building our community.
    Thursday, March 6, 2008 10:13 PM
  • OK seed them by all means, but we have posts going back over 12 months. All that would be needed is the last month at the most. User will know what the forum is for and see the style of posts and type of answers.

    The current situation has made the forums very difficult to use and will frustrate users not help and encourage them.

    Ian
    http://www.ew-resource.co.uk
    http://www.fp-resource.co.uk
    Ian Haynes
    Thursday, March 6, 2008 10:20 PM
  • I've simply gone back to using the old newsgroup, other than stopping by to see if this issue was answered. Post a message on the old newsgroup when you've got your migration solution up and running, and I'll stop by again. Until then, the migrated posts make this forum unusable.
    Thursday, March 6, 2008 10:44 PM
  • Completely understand your frustration and it does make the forums hard to use when you can't easily access the most recent posts. Unfortunately because the posts were manually migrated, maintaining the original date was not possible. As Jeff points out, we will have a migration tool in the future that will keep the threads in tact.

    W'll also look at some other options to raise the few of priority threads.

    Thanks

    -Keith


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    Thursday, March 6, 2008 11:00 PM
  • Why not just stop migrating any more posts, there's a huge number of old ones already. Lets start using the forums properly and give users some confidenece that they can work.

    Ian
    http://www.ew-resource.co.uk
    http://www.fp-resource.co.uk
    Ian Haynes
    Friday, March 7, 2008 8:57 AM
  • Plus, some people are not paying attention to the headers and are responding to posts that are very very old.
    Friday, March 7, 2008 2:46 PM
  • Great idea, done. Just talked with the rest of the team and we agreed to stop migrating the posts. We have a few cycles to clean up but you should see the migrated posts subside over the next few days if not sooner.

    Thanks
    -Keith
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    Friday, March 7, 2008 8:10 PM
  • KeithL [MSFT] said:

    Great idea, done. Just talked with the rest of the team and we agreed to stop migrating the posts. We have a few cycles to clean up but you should see the migrated posts subside over the next few days if not sooner.

    Thanks
    -Keith


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    Thanks Keith. Would it be possible for you to find all the migrated posts that have 0 replies to them and delete them from the Expression Web forum? There are a TON of them and as a result, good samaritans in the Expression Web forum are replying and answering them. We should start fresh with the forums and let us find contemporary posts that have 0 replies. All those ghost posts are polluting things and not helping anyway.

    Anna
    Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:08 AM