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Not the Answer button

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  • I seen a few threads now where the selected answer is not the answer.  Luckily, most of the time the answer is in the thread; sometime is is a problem because there is eons of replies.

    .  I don't think the correct is is marked, somewhere towards the bottom there is a MSFT post about a Hotifx.

    Some way for the community to say, this is not correct is should be addressed, is what I'm looking for.

    Regards, Mike DePouw
    Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:17 PM

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  • If the original poster (and it is his/her question that the thread is about) does not feel that a post that has been marked as an Answer is not an Answer to his/her question, he/she can Unmark the post.

    Otherwise there are many reasons why it is possible for the best post in a thread not to be marked as an answer and another post to be marked as an Answer instead. One of these could be that at the time a Moderator looked at the thread, the better answer was not available.

    However, allowing - as you seem to be suggesting - *anyone* to unmark an answer would lead to anarchy. The present system of the original poster being able to unmark an answer ought to be enough.

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    Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:37 PM
  • understandable that we don't want anarchy but some way for the community to say "that's not the answer" so that the original poster or a moderator could review is what I'm looking for.
    Regards, Mike DePouw
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:15 AM
  • How about a "Vote as NOT Helpful" link?
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:22 AM
  • Now there's a way to start some real anarchy.  The OP needs to attract the attention of a moderator who can then override the mark if s/he so choses.  Looks to me that was done.

    Hans Passant.
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:49 AM
  • How about a "Vote as NOT Helpful" link?  (Marked as Not Helpful)

    I need that button now :)
    Just kidding...
    But there are good reason as well I think, but mostly not needed

    Arjun Paudel
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:28 AM
  • how would the user/I attract the attention of a moderator?
    Regards, Mike DePouw
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:50 AM
  • I'm sure that I am not the only one who has noticed that there are far more discussions in this forum about the bleeping voting/marking/proposing  system than there are about real issues like the fact that the code editor is completely messed up. or that the whole Live ID login thing is a major PITA.

    Could it be (dare I say it) that we would be better off without all these features, or at least most of them? My personal opinion is that it is the whole Answer mentality that is causing all these problems. If we just had Vote as  Helpful , then a thread could be deemed a success if it had helpful posts in it.

    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:20 AM
  • Well, that's accurate.  Sign-on and the post editor do constitute basic broken functionality.  Yet, the users seem to care a lot more about proper answer marking.  Now, why would they remove the one feature that users care about most?

    Back on topic, the OP did get the attention of the moderator.  The same one that marked the answer in that thread.  He did not change the answer mark, it is his call.  If you are convinced it is still the wrong answer, be sure to post to that thread and explain why.  Sooner or later, usually sooner, somebody will use your post to arrive at the correct solution.  Starting your own thread (discussion type) is a good way too.  Others will link to your thread and Google will bring it on top.

    Hans Passant.
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:00 AM
  • >Starting your own thread (discussion type) is a good way too

    I'm against posting a solution without an answer, which I presume is what you mean here.

    To my mind if someone comes up with an answer to something they think might be a common problem, they should post it in their blog or on their site.

    Then when later a question comes up in a forum for which that is a solution they can reply pointing to that blog / site item as the answer.

    The forums are for Technical Questions and Answers so the only discussion type posts I allow in the forums I modify are the rare "Microsoft Info Posts". This has the additional advantage that those posts stand out in the threads and don't need to be made sticky for people to see them (thus saving valuable screen space).

    (If someone really, really wants to get their wonderful solution in a thread, all they need to do is post a question type post asking for a solution for X and then (as some people already do) a few hours later miraculously come up with a reply to it themselves. If there is a reply in the meantime they will also learn whether their solution is as good as they think it is.)

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    Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:16 AM
  • I like the way is is on the Connect Feedback pages.  You can rate the post, from one to five, and you can validate (yes/no).  This is probably too much, but a yes/no on helpful could be used.  If the yes percentage is above a certain percentage, the post would be deemed helpful.
    Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:48 PM
  • Could it be (dare I say it) that we would be better off without all these features, or at least most of them? My personal opinion is that it is the whole Answer mentality that is causing all these problems. If we just had Vote as  Helpful , then a thread could be deemed a success if it had helpful posts in it.

    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP

    Hi David, thanks for the input but I feel the answer button is essential.  I want to get my job done as quickly as possible and the answer buttons helps me do that.

    Regards, Mike DePouw
    Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:04 AM
  • Back on topic, the OP did get the attention of the moderator.  The same one that marked the answer in that thread.  He did not change the answer mark, it is his call.  If you are convinced it is still the wrong answer, be sure to post to that thread and explain why.  Sooner or later, usually sooner, somebody will use your post to arrive at the correct solution.  Starting your own thread (discussion type) is a good way too.  Others will link to your thread and Google will bring it on top.

    Hans Passant.
    When you use "OP" who/what are you referring to?

    Has, thanks for your input and potential solutions.  I only see workarounds presented though.  I was looking for a more integrated way within the MSDN forums.

    Regards, Mike DePouw
    Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:08 AM
  • OP stands for Original Poster or Original Post, depending on how it is used.
    Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:22 AM
  • more usually Original Poster though ...  (certainly I've never used it or seen it being used for anything else)
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    Total list of WSS 3.0 / MOSS 2007 Books (including foreign language) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/Lists/v3%20WSS%20FAQ/V%20Books.aspx
    Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:19 AM