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VAIL Launchpad notifcation icon in system tray stays ON even when VAIL disconnected RRS feed

  • Question

  • I believe that this is a bug- but before I submit it, I thought I would see if anyone else experiences it.

    When the ethernet cord is removed/discnnected from the VAIL SERVER, the VAIL notrification icon on the CLIENT machine remains ON-- that is, green.

    Some sort of notification really should be displayed if the VAIL SERVER is disconnected from the network. When then trying to access the SERVER, it obviously fails. My point is that the icon should change to RED if the network goes down.

    Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:20 AM

Answers

  • Have you reported this on Connect , so Microsoft will be able to track and correct the issue (assuming it's not by design, which seems rather unlikely)?
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:29 AM
    Moderator

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  • Have you reported this on Connect , so Microsoft will be able to track and correct the issue (assuming it's not by design, which seems rather unlikely)?
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:29 AM
    Moderator
  • Just submitted to CONNECT

    Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:19 PM
  • Doesn't the "Green Icon" indicate that you are logged into the Launchpad not that the server is available?
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:43 PM
  • Apparently... but what is the real need for it if it does not alert the user
    to the state of Vail? It does ‘alert’ that there are alerts, but apparently
    the failure of Vail itself or the connection with the network is not worthy
    of an alert in the launchpad. It doesn’t even alert when a scheduled backup
    is missed if the client has been offline. It seems to me that the launchpad,
    supposedly meant to launch several things that otherwise would require the
    step of opening the dashboard, just adds a step to save a step... so no
    steps are really saved at all.. :)
     
     
    Art (artfudd) Folden
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    "PhilipJH" wrote in message news:8f5b4cfd-372f-482f-a8fb-ef34e5247a67...
     
     
    Doesn't the "Green Icon" indicate that you are logged into the Launchpad not
    that the server is available?
     
     
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:02 PM
  • Art

    I agree but that makes it a "design feature" rather than a "bug"! Personally I don't like it at all - I would just prefer to use the Dashboard as per WHS1.

    Phil

    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:07 PM
  • I had asked the question when one of my computers was "Online" but Server showed it as "Offline", no notification of any kind. This was my original build of Vail, anyway the computer was in this state with no backups or anything going on, no alerts. If I hadn't been beta testing who knows how long that would of gone on for, I would suspect 7 days before something alerted me. It was after 5 days when I noticed it myself.
     
    One of the responses to the bug was -
     
    "We don't have any plans to include an alert when a client is offline. There are many valid reasons for this to occur so an alert of this type would be noisy"
     
    Just thought that I would add this.
    --
    Don
    "artfudd" wrote in message news:7a87a0fb-9a62-47a8-a93a-3e91b5e391cc...
    Apparently... but what is the real need for it if it does not alert the user
    to the state of Vail? It does ‘alert’ that there are alerts, but apparently
    the failure of Vail itself or the connection with the network is not worthy
    of an alert in the launchpad. It doesn’t even alert when a scheduled backup
    is missed if the client has been offline. It seems to me that the launchpad,
    supposedly meant to launch several things that otherwise would require the
    step of opening the dashboard, just adds a step to save a step... so no
    steps are really saved at all.. :)
     
     
    Art (artfudd) Folden
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "PhilipJH" wrote in message news:8f5b4cfd-372f-482f-a8fb-ef34e5247a67...
     
     
    Doesn't the "Green Icon" indicate that you are logged into the Launchpad not
    that the server is available?
     
     
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:15 PM
  • I don’t mind if it doesn’t alert for a client being offline, and tend to
    agree about the noisy aspect, but I think it should notify right away if the
    server is offline.
     
    But a handy feature of the launchpad would be if it at least had a link to
    an interface that showed the network and status of the server as well as all
    clients in the network – something like the Linksys Network Magic does –
    which by the way appears to work fine with Vail (installed on it as well as
    all clients).
     
    Art (artfudd) Folden
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "DonCarlson" wrote in message news:52860971-5e41-4bef-aa7b-4f8e334bb299...
     
     
     
    I had asked the question when one of my computers was "Online" but Server
    showed it as "Offline", no notification of any kind. This was my original
    build of Vail, anyway the computer was in this state with no backups or
    anything going on, no alerts. If I hadn't been beta testing who knows how
    long that would of gone on for, I would suspect 7 days before something
    alerted me. It was after 5 days when I noticed it myself.
     
    One of the responses to the bug was -
     
    "We don't have any plans to include an alert when a client is offline. There
    are many valid reasons for this to occur so an alert of this type would be
    noisy"
     
    Just thought that I would add this.
    --
    Don
     
     
    "artfudd" wrote in message news:7a87a0fb-9a62-47a8-a93a-3e91b5e391cc...
    Apparently... but what is the real need for it if it does not alert the user
    to the state of Vail? It does ‘alert’ that there are alerts, but apparently
    the failure of Vail itself or the connection with the network is not worthy
    of an alert in the launchpad. It doesn’t even alert when a scheduled backup
    is missed if the client has been offline. It seems to me that the launchpad,
    supposedly meant to launch several things that otherwise would require the
    step of opening the dashboard, just adds a step to save a step... so no
    steps are really saved at all.. :)
     
     
    Art (artfudd) Folden
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "PhilipJH" wrote in message news:8f5b4cfd-372f-482f-a8fb-ef34e5247a67...
     
     
    Doesn't the "Green Icon" indicate that you are logged into the Launchpad not
    that the server is available?
     
     
     
     
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:55 PM
  • I agree but that makes it a "design feature" rather than a "bug"! Personally I don't like it at all - I would just prefer to use the Dashboard as per WHS1.

    The Launchpad is how Vail gets around the problem of users that don't match between your server and your client. You can have a client that has only a generic user that everyone uses and no password, and still get access to the shares on Vail by entering credentials in the LaunchPad.

    There's also some wierdness around Homegroups and permissions right now. :) If you don't log into the launchpad, even if your local user matches a user on Vail you get the same permissions you would from the Homegroup settings. The Launchpad overrides this.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:18 PM
    Moderator
  • Well as the starter of this thread, the bottom line for me is simple: if my VAIL SERVER, located headless in a corner of my basement, is disconnected from the netowrk, I want to know. I green icon, to me, does NOT indicate that I have any network issues.
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:02 PM
  • ...
    But a handy feature of the launchpad would be if it at least had a link to
    an interface that showed the network and status of the server as well as all
    clients in the network – something like the Linksys Network Magic does –
    which by the way appears to work fine with Vail (installed on it as well as
    all clients). 
    ...
    I can't find this product suggestion on Connect, Art. (hint!)
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:17 PM
    Moderator
  • Please do file all this as a bug on connect.  The launchpad should have correct online/offline detection working.  Additionally, I know in the next build we’re attempting to add a few updates to the launchpad, specifically around offline use (some of the links should be available to you even if you can’t get to the server, for example, the remote access).
     
    Please do file the issue(s) in this thread though.
       Sean
     
    This post is "AS IS" and confers no rights.
    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:08ab732f-9da9-49c0-b4d7-3e07eb60cf46...
    ...
    But a handy feature of the launchpad would be if it at least had a link to
    an interface that showed the network and status of the server as well as all
    clients in the network – something like the Linksys Network Magic does –
    which by the way appears to work fine with Vail (installed on it as well as
    all clients).
    ..
    I can't find this product suggestion on Connect, Art. (hint!)
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:36 PM
    Moderator
  • Please do file all this as a bug on connect.  The launchpad should have correct online/offline detection working.  Additionally, I know in the next build we’re attempting to add a few updates to the launchpad, specifically around offline use (some of the links should be available to you even if you can’t get to the server, for example, the remote access).
     
    Please do file the issue(s) in this thread though.
       Sean
     
    This post is "AS IS" and confers no rights.
    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:08ab732f-9da9-49c0-b4d7-3e07eb60cf46...
    ...
    But a handy feature of the launchpad would be if it at least had a link to
    an interface that showed the network and status of the server as well as all
    clients in the network – something like the Linksys Network Magic does –
    which by the way appears to work fine with Vail (installed on it as well as
    all clients).
    ..
    I can't find this product suggestion on Connect, Art. (hint!)
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)

    Sean/Ken- I DID file my issue on CONNECT
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:43 PM
  • Hint taken and acted upon:
    https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/feedback/details/560407/have-launchpad-show-complete-network-status
     
    Art (artfudd) Folden
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:08ab732f-9da9-49c0-b4d7-3e07eb60cf46...
     
     
     
    ....
    But a handy feature of the launchpad would be if it at least had a link to
    an interface that showed the network and status of the server as well as all
    clients in the network – something like the Linksys Network Magic does –
    which by the way appears to work fine with Vail (installed on it as well as
    all clients).
    ...
    I can't find this product suggestion on Connect, Art. (hint!) I'm not on
    the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
     
     
    Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:23 PM
  • Thanks Sean... done:
    https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/feedback/details/560407/have-launchpad-show-complete-network-status
     
    Art (artfudd) Folden
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "Sean Daniel - MSFT" wrote in message
    news:9cac14c0-6cdf-4f9e-9b6d-6335edc2a545...
     
     
     
    Please do file all this as a bug on connect. The launchpad should have
    correct online/offline detection working. Additionally, I know in the next
    build we’re attempting to add a few updates to the launchpad, specifically
    around offline use (some of the links should be available to you even if you
    can’t get to the server, for example, the remote access).
     
    Please do file the issue(s) in this thread though.
    Sean
     
    This post is "AS IS" and confers no rights.
     
     
    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:08ab732f-9da9-49c0-b4d7-3e07eb60cf46...
     
     
    ....
    But a handy feature of the launchpad would be if it at least had a link to
    an interface that showed the network and status of the server as well as all
    clients in the network – something like the Linksys Network Magic does –
    which by the way appears to work fine with Vail (installed on it as well as
    all clients).
    ..
    I can't find this product suggestion on Connect, Art. (hint!) I'm not on
    the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
     
     
     
    Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:23 PM