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Answers forums not available through NNTP bridge

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Hi,
I'm using NNTP bridge to read answers forums. Unfortunately none of the
Office related forums seem to be available this way. Only xp, vista, w7 and
some others are listed. I have done refreshs of group lists.
What is the status?--
Peter Doering [MVP Access]
HTH - Peter
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My NR is 40tude Dialog,
That could be your problem. Try using OE or WLMail instead. <eg>FYI there are some very long gaps in the transmission of the LIST so I wouldn't be surprised if some newsreaders might decide they had it all without the final . and thus truncated your list before the name that you want.
To check that idea you could use telnet -f telnet.txt localhost 119 and issue a LIST command to it.
FWIW when I do that here is what I see:
C:\>find /i /n "addbuz" telnet.txt
---------- TELNET.TXT
[1214]Answers.en-US.addbuz 1 718 ySo, are you getting at least 1214 listed? ; )
HTH
Robert
---- Marked as answer by Peter DoeringMVP Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:10 PM
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My NR is 40tude Dialog,
That could be your problem. Try using OE or WLMail instead. <eg>
;-P
Actually I did try WLM and I did get the missing groups (!!) So I dug my heels in and found ...
FYI there are some very long gaps in the transmission of the LIST so I wouldn't be surprised if some newsreaders might decide they had it all without the final . and thus truncated your list before the name that you want.
... exactly this same result: Timing.
The NNTP bridge doesn't have the reputation of being utterly fast, and 4D considers the import of group lists as single task by server, with a standard timeout of 15 sec. I had to double the timeout 2 times, to 30 then 60 sec, and just below 60 sec the download finished.
My problem is solved. :-)
Thanks for helping, also to Jeff.
- Marked as answer by Peter DoeringMVP Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:10 PM
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I'm using NNTP bridge to read answers forums. Unfortunately none of the
Office related forums seem to be available this way.It may help if you post the URL that you are trying to find the equivalent of.
FWIW I am subscribed to Technet.en-US.outlook through the bridge and
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/outlook/threads
online.
HTHRobert Aldwinckle
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It may help if you post the URL that you are trying to find the equivalent of.
Good point. Example:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/addbuz/threads
"Microsoft Office > Microsoft Office Forums > Additional Microsoft Office Products Forums > Microsoft Office for Business Users: Visio, Project, and Access" is not visible on NNTP Bridge.
FWIW I am subscribed to Technet.en-US.outlook through the bridge and
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/outlook/threads
online.
So am I, plus plenty of beta and msdn forums. Inside the answers.en-US.* hierarchy Windows XP, Vista and 7 as well as a few others like IE are visible. My question refers to answers.en-US.Office* (I don't know if the path is right).
HTH - Peter -
It may help if you post the URL that you are trying to find the equivalent of.
Good point. Example:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/addbuz/threads
"Microsoft Office > Microsoft Office Forums > Additional Microsoft Office Products Forums > Microsoft Office for Business Users: Visio, Project, and Access" is not visible on NNTP Bridge.
It's there. Which newsreader are you using? FYI in OE and spawn you could find it by pressing Ctrl-w and typing some of the (case-sensitive) letters you would like to match.
Hmm... looks like WLMail has changed that. I tried S uz and it matched more than OE would have. ; )
If you still can't find it, I would suggest doing a Reset List for the full list of "newsgroups".
Good luckRobert
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Robert,
If it's there, what is the NNTP name of this forum?
My NR is 40tude Dialog, and I've done plenty of refreshs of group listings. In a similar issue with Connect forums the support team at Connect did some kind of reset of my account, and after that, with the next refresh of group lists, I received all missing groups (forums).
I suspect a similar issue, and my first way took me there, but they said they weren't dealing with Answers, so they coulnd't help. The challenge seems to be finding the right support team to push this button.
Thanks - Peter
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Hi Peter,
The easiest way to find a forum in the NNTP Bridge is to locate the forum name within the URL. In this case the URL is http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/addbuz/threads. The forum name follows the lang/locale. In this case it is 'addbuz'.
This forum is available via the NNTP bridge.
Hope this helps!
Thanks!
JEFFWI -
My NR is 40tude Dialog,
That could be your problem. Try using OE or WLMail instead. <eg>FYI there are some very long gaps in the transmission of the LIST so I wouldn't be surprised if some newsreaders might decide they had it all without the final . and thus truncated your list before the name that you want.
To check that idea you could use telnet -f telnet.txt localhost 119 and issue a LIST command to it.
FWIW when I do that here is what I see:
C:\>find /i /n "addbuz" telnet.txt
---------- TELNET.TXT
[1214]Answers.en-US.addbuz 1 718 ySo, are you getting at least 1214 listed? ; )
HTH
Robert
---- Marked as answer by Peter DoeringMVP Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:10 PM
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My NR is 40tude Dialog,
That could be your problem. Try using OE or WLMail instead. <eg>
;-P
Actually I did try WLM and I did get the missing groups (!!) So I dug my heels in and found ...
FYI there are some very long gaps in the transmission of the LIST so I wouldn't be surprised if some newsreaders might decide they had it all without the final . and thus truncated your list before the name that you want.
... exactly this same result: Timing.
The NNTP bridge doesn't have the reputation of being utterly fast, and 4D considers the import of group lists as single task by server, with a standard timeout of 15 sec. I had to double the timeout 2 times, to 30 then 60 sec, and just below 60 sec the download finished.
My problem is solved. :-)
Thanks for helping, also to Jeff.
- Marked as answer by Peter DoeringMVP Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:10 PM