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Jump Start - Exam 70-659: Windows Server 2008 R2, Server Virtualization RRS feed

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  • Why get certified in Microsoft Virtualization?

    In just three short years, Hyper-V market share has grown over 16% (IDC WW Quarterly Server Virtualization Tracker, March 2011). This shift to Microsoft Virtualization has been clear the past six months as IT Professionals are flocking to the Hyper-V certification and Microsoft Private Cloud solutions. It’s easy to see that organizations who invest in IT Professionals with proven skills in current virtualization and Private Cloud skills will be a step ahead in this ever-changing cloud world.

    Why is this Jump Start a good time investment?

    This accelerated Jump Start is tailored for experienced IT professionals who are familiar with Microsoft server technologies, Hyper-V, Virtual Machine Manager and Remote Desktop Role Services. Here are few other unique features of this course:

    • Taught by highly-respected technologists, Symon Perriman and Philip Helsel (below)
    • A very fast-paced and demo-rich experience ensuring students have the expertise and confidence to become a MCTS: Windows Server 2008, R2, Server Virtualization.
    • Includes an exam voucher with activation instructions during the training

    Skills Covered:

    • Installing and Configuring Host and Parent Settings
    • Configuring Child Settings
    • Managing and Monitoring Virtual Environments
    • Ensuring High Availability and Recoverability
    • Performing Migration
    • Configuring Remote Desktop (RD) Role Services Infrastructure

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    Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:17 AM
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  • I did participate in the Jump Start, the content was relevant to the exam's prep. Experience and more reading were a +.

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    Since you are on the subject of Jump Start'ing, I guess I may say the following:

    There seem to be a lack of training materials for 70-693. Any Jump Start??? What are the guys at MS Press doing on this? Does anyone know if there might be at least elearning materials?

    ---speculated that they might be working on cloud material :)

    Any thought?

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 1:21 AM
  • Thats a good question why be certified? certs carry no weight as far as proving you have experience with a particular product to anyone except the people at microsoft. Do you think these companies that are switching in droves will require certs? I don't think so. and you probably won't get a raise or promoted based on obtaining a new cert.

    And as far as finding work goes a college degree  from anywhere in any subject is more effective. The hiring managers I know say if the don't see a degree you are not even considered. you can have all certs money can buy without having any real experience.

     Most companies don't re emburse you for this type of training. so unless you are getting certified for the sake of being top dog on the forum page. I think its a waste of time and money. what do you think?

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:26 AM
  • Thats a good question why be certified? certs carry no weight as far as proving you have experience with a particular product to anyone except the people at microsoft. Do you think these companies that are switching in droves will require certs? I don't think so. and you probably won't get a raise or promoted based on obtaining a new cert.

    And as far as finding work goes a college degree  from anywhere in any subject is more effective. The hiring managers I know say if the don't see a degree you are not even considered. you can have all certs money can buy without having any real experience.

     Most companies don't re emburse you for this type of training. so unless you are getting certified for the sake of being top dog on the forum page. I think its a waste of time and money. what do you think?

    Where are you getting your facts from when you say "most"?  Can you provide statistics to back up your claims?

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    MSysDev (C.Sturt), MDbDsgnMgt (C.Sturt), MCT, MCPD, MCSD, MCITP, MCDBA
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    Twitter: @Mr_Wharty
    MC ID: Microsoft Transcript

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:43 AM
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  • I did participate in the Jump Start, the content was relevant to the exam's prep. Experience and more reading were a +.

    ****
    Since you are on the subject of Jump Start'ing, I guess I may say the following:

    There seem to be a lack of training materials for 70-693. Any Jump Start??? What are the guys at MS Press doing on this? Does anyone know if there might be at least elearning materials?

    ---speculated that they might be working on cloud material :)

    Any thought?

    The "Pro" series of certifications are theory and experience based (i.e. the skill required to pass these exams can't be gained by reading books etc), this is why there's very little in the way of study material. On the other hand, the MCTS series of certifications are technical based (i.e. the skills required to pass these exams can be gained by reading books etc), this is why there’s always plenty of study material avaialbe.


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    Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:47 AM
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  • Thanks Jeff!--- For MCTS note, I agree with you(Still hands-on is necessary).  And I like the way you add "etc". The rest is still debatable. Anyone else with more opinions/views? Seriously, are there more pro that can write books on this to make money? This is a hot technology for consultants or anyone with private labs "etc". Search engine/KBs have most of  the answers but usually, a reference book helps....


    • Edited by DismasH Saturday, May 5, 2012 2:16 PM
    Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:39 AM
  • I get my stats from real experience, I have two certs 70-270 and 70-640. I work for a large corp(fortune 500) and I have many Friends who also work in the IT field. my company,  and all the companies my fellow engineers work for will re emurse for college coureses related to IT. as long as it is for college credit. no such program exists for Microsoft certs. that I have heard of in any of the companies my friends work for. And I have a friend who does IT contract work companies around the area. So he interviews quite a lot. and works with an IT placement firm. so he has a good Idea what companies are looking for in an IT employee, and from what he says certs are great for learning everthing there is to know about a product, but no degree no job.

    The Tests are available for purchase on the internet so anyone can memorize enough to pass the exam and just like that you are certified. we call them paper engineers (more certs than actual skills or experience.) When training for the server 2008 I met a tech with just about every engineering cert  Micrsoft offers, and he has been working in IT for only two years. he knew little abut everything but was no expert in anything, not by a long shot.

    Do you have any stats from actual employment agencies that can show that certified engineers get paid more or are hired over someone with a degree and no certs?

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:41 PM
  • I do not see relevancy with your comments in here. I may be wrong but…

    For those that are pursuing 70-659, with the time spent listening and asking questions (during the livecast),  the knowledge with MS technologies, not forgetting the money you pay, I would recommend this Jump start 100%. "Connaissance" that is worth it even if it is not for certification.

    But whoever sell those ones should be hung :) without offense. 

    Good luck!


    Dismas, Hategekimana | BCP| MCITP

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:08 PM
  • I agree, there is no better way to learn about a microsoft product, I am not saying you should not attend training or seminars. I have learned Quit a bit from from the classroom training I took and webinars that are available to technet subscribers. The point I was trying to make is Microsoft should partner up with a accredited colleges and universities around the world and make that time and effort put into obtaining a cert good toward a degree. Unfortunately that is  how we gauge education,  We could weed out the paper engineers with a hands on section of the test. Cisco has had great success with this type of exam.( There is no way to cheat on that one.) Give the people who work hard To prove that they did indeed put in the time and study, a certification that will carry some weight in the work world.

    There won't be as many engineers with more certs than skills out there, if you make them take a hands on exam after after passing the written. The one's you will have will be the best.

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 10:52 PM
  • I get my stats from real experience, I have two certs 70-270 and 70-640. I work for a large corp(fortune 500) and I have many Friends who also work in the IT field. my company,  and all the companies my fellow engineers work for will re emurse for college coureses related to IT. as long as it is for college credit. no such program exists for Microsoft certs. that I have heard of in any of the companies my friends work for. And I have a friend who does IT contract work companies around the area. So he interviews quite a lot. and works with an IT placement firm. so he has a good Idea what companies are looking for in an IT employee, and from what he says certs are great for learning everthing there is to know about a product, but no degree no job.

    The Tests are available for purchase on the internet so anyone can memorize enough to pass the exam and just like that you are certified. we call them paper engineers (more certs than actual skills or experience.) When training for the server 2008 I met a tech with just about every engineering cert  Micrsoft offers, and he has been working in IT for only two years. he knew little abut everything but was no expert in anything, not by a long shot.

    Do you have any stats from actual employment agencies that can show that certified engineers get paid more or are hired over someone with a degree and no certs?

    Every position/contract I’ve applied for (in both Government and Private sector)  since 2001 required certifications.  The last 3 job interviews I conducted required candidates to have at least MCPD or MCITP certifications.

    MCT’s are required to gain certification in the topics they wish to teach therefore every MCT around the world must be certified.

    I have also presented and worked in technology events in the U.S., Australia and EMEA so have had contact with thousands of people who have stated that certifications were beneficial to their employment.

    Certifications are also preferred over University degrees as certifications are more relevant than a University degree gained by studying out-dated programming languages and/or technology.  That said, if I need to choose between a candidate who is certified or a candidate who is certified and has a degree, the person with the degree would be selected.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jobs+microsoft+certification



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    Saturday, May 5, 2012 11:12 PM
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  • Tx for the clarification. I totally understand the point now. Oh well, you can not find a shirt that would fit every young boy!


    Dismas, Hategekimana | BCP| MCITP

    Saturday, May 5, 2012 11:31 PM
  • Thank you, Its good to hear that certs are required to obtain some types of jobs.

    I didn't mean to say that taking classes or seminars is not a good thing, the Technet webinars and the info available at seminars is great. Just going to a seminar and meeting with others in the same field with similar interests is a great learning tool.

    The question I have is why take the test? In my opinion the benifit of taking a certification exam is to prove that you have taken the time and made the effort to gain as much knowledge as possible with a product. As I said before, many people have certs that don't really meet that standard.

    Monday, May 7, 2012 5:15 PM