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Installed previously, now it says not valid on reinstall

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I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat but here goes.
A year and a half ago I purchased the student edition of Windows 7 on the $30 promotion. At the time, there was no indication that this was an "upgrade only" version of Win7 - I even emailed Microsoft customer service about it and I was assured it was a full version. Unfortunately, the license key I was given is indeed an "upgrade only" key.
Fast forward to the present day. I have just retired my old PC, which was about to tick over the four year mark, and it has had its Win7 wiped and replaced with an ancient copy of Windows XP I had from a much older computer. (It's going to become the media center computer for the house now.) The shiny new system was home built on a budget, and I intended to put my student copy of Windows 7 on it.
License key says it can only be used for upgrades, however. Here's the diagnostics:
Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
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Windows Validation Data-->
Validation Code: 50
Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-74XYM-BH4JX-XM76F
Windows Product Key Hash: KeYfcvXg/a1Q01x73+f8IL/JC4Y=
Windows Product ID: 00359-112-0000007-85953
Windows Product ID Type: 5
Windows License Type: Retail
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010300.1.0.003
ID: {FDA06C1A-37A2-4399-BA56-B7D1EE384911}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Home Premium
Architecture: 0x00000009
Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
TTS Error:
Validation Diagnostic:
Resolution Status: N/A
Vista WgaER Data-->
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Windows XP Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGA Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGA Data-->
Office Status: 109 N/A
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3
Browser Data-->
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: C:\Users\Cathy\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed
File Scan Data-->
Other data-->
Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{FDA06C1A-37A2-4399-BA56-B7D1EE384911}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010300.1.0.003</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-XM76F</PKey><PID>00359-112-0000007-85953</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-3741792830-1387077771-1217994865</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>MSI</Manufacturer><Model>MS-7623</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>V11.8</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="6"/><Date>20101201000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>1E453007018400F2</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Eastern Standard Time(GMT-05:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>
Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002
Licensing Data-->
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514
Name: Windows(R) 7, HomePremium edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
Activation ID: 2e7d060d-4714-40f2-9896-1e4f15b612ad
Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
Extended PID: 00359-00170-112-000000-00-1033-7600.0000-0772011
Installation ID: 014160325855641895881522995854274743000445431683055220
Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
Partial Product Key: XM76F
License Status: Notification
Notification Reason: 0xC004F009 (grace time expired).
Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
Trusted time: 4/22/2011 11:38:08 PM
Windows Activation Technologies-->
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: 0xC004C532
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: 4:22:2011 23:34
ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:
HWID Data-->
HWID Hash Current: MgAAAAEABAABAAEAAAACAAAAAQABAAEA6GHSeSruEDNU8o4wFLAW1857Yj1cYFKyQho=
OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
N/A
OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
Windows marker version: N/A
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
BIOS Information:
ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
APIC 7623MS A7623200
FACP 7623MS A7623200
SRAT AMD FAM_F_10
HPET 7623MS OEMHPET
MCFG 7623MS OEMMCFG
OEMB 7623MS A7623200
SSDT A M I POWERNOW
So the last time I went through this, which was also an upgrade from XP, I was told I couldn't do a direct upgrade from XP, it had to be done as a clean install. This go round I didn't bother putting XP on the new system first because I figured it wasn't necessary.
So what do I do? My "clean install" says my license isn't valid, my Windows XP has already been put to use on another system, and I don't have any valid copies of Vista lying around to use.
Am I going to have to remove the Windows XP from the media center system just so I can do a reinstall of this and "upgrade" it? Am I going to have to go through this mess any time I want to do a clean install of the OS? (something that Win7 thankfully doesn't need nearly as frequently as XP did, I've found.)
Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:52 AM
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"cblakeney" wrote in message news:a5b21144-83ec-492f-825e-415c568f9838...
I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat but here goes.
A year and a half ago I purchased the student edition of Windows 7 on the $30 promotion. At the time, there was no indication that this was an "upgrade only" version of Win7 - I even emailed Microsoft customer service about it and I was assured it was a full version. Unfortunately, the license key I was given is indeed an "upgrade only" key.
Fast forward to the present day. I have just retired my old PC, which was about to tick over the four year mark, and it has had its Win7 wiped and replaced with an ancient copy of Windows XP I had from a much older computer. (It's going to become the media center computer for the house now.) The shiny new system was home built on a budget, and I intended to put my student copy of Windows 7 on it.
License key says it can only be used for upgrades, however. Here's the diagnostics:
Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
-----------------------------------------
Windows Validation Data-->
Validation Code: 50
Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-74XYM-BH4JX-XM76F
Windows Product Key Hash: KeYfcvXg/a1Q01x73+f8IL/JC4Y=
Windows Product ID: 00359-112-0000007-85953
Windows Product ID Type: 5
Windows License Type: Retail
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010300.1.0.003
So what do I do? My "clean install" says my license isn't valid, my Windows XP has already been put to use on another system, and I don't have any valid copies of Vista lying around to use.
Am I going to have to remove the Windows XP from the media center system just so I can do a reinstall of this and "upgrade" it? Am I going to have to go through this mess any time I want to do a clean install of the OS? (something that Win7 thankfully doesn't need nearly as frequently as XP did, I've found.)
There are a couple of problems with your usage .1) when you use an upgrade license, the old 'qualifying license' cannot legally be re-used elsewhere, as it's subsumed into the upgraded license.2) You've used what is an Upgrade license in a clean install - and to do that you've had to initially use the Default (Keyless Install) Key - and that has now run out of the grace period allowed for activation. Since you're using the qualifying license elsewhere, you cannot use it to qualify this system for the Upgrade.Your current PC as a result is unlicensedOptions....1) purchase a copy of XP or Vista, activate, and then upgrade using your Upgrade DVD.2) purchase a new Full Retail copy of Win 7 Home Premium and use the Key from that to make your system genuine.3) purchase an OEM System Builder of whichever edition of Win 7 you want, and install that - it will be a clean install, as it's not possible to do repair installs with OEM software. It's also not recommended, as the license becomes locked to the motherboard, and cannot be moved to another machine, and you also lose entitlement to MS Support.
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Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth- Marked as answer by cblakeney Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:19 PM
Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:39 AMModerator -
It is with regret that I must disagree strongly with Noel and others who sometimes advise end users to acquire and use OEM system builder copies of Windows. I realize that most users have never seen a system builder license. It is not at all the same as the OEM end user license agreement (EULA). The SB license is always removed before the customer receives the computer it is installed on.
Here is the pertinent part of the SB license. It clearly does NOT grant the purchaser of an OEM pack any end user rights. It restricts the purchaser of OEM software to installation on a computer sold to a third party (customer) and prohibits the purchaser from using the software himself. SB packs are clearly NOT for end users. I have highlighted salient points.
MICROSOFT OEM SYSTEM BUILDER LICENSE
(Visit www.microsoft.com/oem for additional OEM System Builder information)
1 Definitions.
a. "Customer System" means a fully assembled computer system that includes a CPU, a motherboard, a power supply, an internally mounted NAND or revolving magnetic-based hard drive, and a case.
b. "Distribution" and "Distribute" mean the point in time when a Customer System leaves your control.
c. "Hardware" means the Microsoft hardware included in the Peck. A unit of Hardware includes any software and end user documentation that may be included in the Pack.
d. "OPK" means the OEM preinstallation kit provided by Microsoft that includes installation instructions, utilities and tools for preinstalIing the Software.
e. "Package" means this package of Microsoft Software or Hardware.
f. "Software" means the Microsoft software inside the Pack. A unit of Software includes any software media, documentation, certificate of authenticity ("COA') label, end user license terms and security devices.
2. Authorized Distribution and Acceptance. To distribute the Software or Hardware in this Pack, you must be a System Builder and accept this license. 'System Builder' means an original equipment manufacturer, an assembler, a refurbisher, or a software pre-installer that sells the Customer System(s) to a third party. You accept this license when you open this Pack. If you choose not to accept this license, promptly return the unopened Pack to your distributor. You may only distribute unopened Packs within your territory. For the territory in which you may distribute, see www.mirosoft.com/oem/sblicense/territory. Individual Software or Hardware units may not be returned after the Pack is opened.
3. Parties. Microsoft Licensing, GP ("MLGP"), a general partnership organized under the laws of the State of Nevada, grants this license to you. However, if you are located in Europe, the Middle East or Africa, then this license is granted by Microsoft Ireland Operations Limited ("MIOL"), a company organized under the laws of Ireland. The terms "we", "our", "us", or "Microsoft" mean MLGP or MIOL.
4. Limited license. If you comply with the terms of this license, Microsoft grants you a limited license to distribute the Software or Hardware. Except as granted in this license, you may not use, run, copy, modify, display, distribute, repackage or reassemble the Software, Hardware, OPK or any part of them. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software, Hardware or OPK, except to the extent expressly permitted by this license or by applicable law notwithstanding this prohibition. All rights not expressly granted are reserved.
There is more but this is the pertinent part.
The correct license for an end user purchasing Windows, including those building their own computers and doing favors for friends and relatives, is RETAIL.
Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.- Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Monday, April 25, 2011 9:47 PM
Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:49 PMAnswerer -
Colin and I have actually talked about this a bit and his reasoning was compelling.
Compelling enough that I went and looked up the OEM Licensing for myself. (Note the OEM Licensing and the OEM EULA are different. The former is for the person Making the PC, the later is for the person using the PC). As you can see from Colin's post (the underlined section) When using OEM software, the Maker of the PC and the User of the PC must ALWAYS be different people.
In other words, to qualify under the OEM Licensing, a PC using OEM software must be sold to a 3rd party.
Darin MS- Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Monday, April 25, 2011 9:53 PM
Monday, April 25, 2011 9:47 PM
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Since you cannot reuse the qualifying Windows XP operating system license on a different computer once you upgrade to Windows 7 with an upgrade license, your choices are:
1) Remove Windows XP from the old computer via reformatting the hard drive, then install it on the newer computer, then upgrade to Windows 7 (please note that during Windows 7 installation, a licensing compliance check for a qualifying Windows operating system license is performed in order to use a Windows 7 upgrade license).
or
2) Purchase a "Full License" Windows 7 edition and install it.
Carey FrischSaturday, April 23, 2011 6:23 AMModerator -
"cblakeney" wrote in message news:a5b21144-83ec-492f-825e-415c568f9838...
I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat but here goes.
A year and a half ago I purchased the student edition of Windows 7 on the $30 promotion. At the time, there was no indication that this was an "upgrade only" version of Win7 - I even emailed Microsoft customer service about it and I was assured it was a full version. Unfortunately, the license key I was given is indeed an "upgrade only" key.
Fast forward to the present day. I have just retired my old PC, which was about to tick over the four year mark, and it has had its Win7 wiped and replaced with an ancient copy of Windows XP I had from a much older computer. (It's going to become the media center computer for the house now.) The shiny new system was home built on a budget, and I intended to put my student copy of Windows 7 on it.
License key says it can only be used for upgrades, however. Here's the diagnostics:
Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
-----------------------------------------
Windows Validation Data-->
Validation Code: 50
Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-74XYM-BH4JX-XM76F
Windows Product Key Hash: KeYfcvXg/a1Q01x73+f8IL/JC4Y=
Windows Product ID: 00359-112-0000007-85953
Windows Product ID Type: 5
Windows License Type: Retail
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010300.1.0.003
So what do I do? My "clean install" says my license isn't valid, my Windows XP has already been put to use on another system, and I don't have any valid copies of Vista lying around to use.
Am I going to have to remove the Windows XP from the media center system just so I can do a reinstall of this and "upgrade" it? Am I going to have to go through this mess any time I want to do a clean install of the OS? (something that Win7 thankfully doesn't need nearly as frequently as XP did, I've found.)
There are a couple of problems with your usage .1) when you use an upgrade license, the old 'qualifying license' cannot legally be re-used elsewhere, as it's subsumed into the upgraded license.2) You've used what is an Upgrade license in a clean install - and to do that you've had to initially use the Default (Keyless Install) Key - and that has now run out of the grace period allowed for activation. Since you're using the qualifying license elsewhere, you cannot use it to qualify this system for the Upgrade.Your current PC as a result is unlicensedOptions....1) purchase a copy of XP or Vista, activate, and then upgrade using your Upgrade DVD.2) purchase a new Full Retail copy of Win 7 Home Premium and use the Key from that to make your system genuine.3) purchase an OEM System Builder of whichever edition of Win 7 you want, and install that - it will be a clean install, as it's not possible to do repair installs with OEM software. It's also not recommended, as the license becomes locked to the motherboard, and cannot be moved to another machine, and you also lose entitlement to MS Support.
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Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth- Marked as answer by cblakeney Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:19 PM
Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:39 AMModerator -
All right, I'll pull the XP back off the media center system and just drop Unbuntu Linux on it then. However, I am going to be more leery of student promotions in the future, as Microsoft never indicated that what they were selling was an upgrade license key and not a full version anywhere on their website.Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:21 PM
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It is with regret that I must disagree strongly with Noel and others who sometimes advise end users to acquire and use OEM system builder copies of Windows. I realize that most users have never seen a system builder license. It is not at all the same as the OEM end user license agreement (EULA). The SB license is always removed before the customer receives the computer it is installed on.
Here is the pertinent part of the SB license. It clearly does NOT grant the purchaser of an OEM pack any end user rights. It restricts the purchaser of OEM software to installation on a computer sold to a third party (customer) and prohibits the purchaser from using the software himself. SB packs are clearly NOT for end users. I have highlighted salient points.
MICROSOFT OEM SYSTEM BUILDER LICENSE
(Visit www.microsoft.com/oem for additional OEM System Builder information)
1 Definitions.
a. "Customer System" means a fully assembled computer system that includes a CPU, a motherboard, a power supply, an internally mounted NAND or revolving magnetic-based hard drive, and a case.
b. "Distribution" and "Distribute" mean the point in time when a Customer System leaves your control.
c. "Hardware" means the Microsoft hardware included in the Peck. A unit of Hardware includes any software and end user documentation that may be included in the Pack.
d. "OPK" means the OEM preinstallation kit provided by Microsoft that includes installation instructions, utilities and tools for preinstalIing the Software.
e. "Package" means this package of Microsoft Software or Hardware.
f. "Software" means the Microsoft software inside the Pack. A unit of Software includes any software media, documentation, certificate of authenticity ("COA') label, end user license terms and security devices.
2. Authorized Distribution and Acceptance. To distribute the Software or Hardware in this Pack, you must be a System Builder and accept this license. 'System Builder' means an original equipment manufacturer, an assembler, a refurbisher, or a software pre-installer that sells the Customer System(s) to a third party. You accept this license when you open this Pack. If you choose not to accept this license, promptly return the unopened Pack to your distributor. You may only distribute unopened Packs within your territory. For the territory in which you may distribute, see www.mirosoft.com/oem/sblicense/territory. Individual Software or Hardware units may not be returned after the Pack is opened.
3. Parties. Microsoft Licensing, GP ("MLGP"), a general partnership organized under the laws of the State of Nevada, grants this license to you. However, if you are located in Europe, the Middle East or Africa, then this license is granted by Microsoft Ireland Operations Limited ("MIOL"), a company organized under the laws of Ireland. The terms "we", "our", "us", or "Microsoft" mean MLGP or MIOL.
4. Limited license. If you comply with the terms of this license, Microsoft grants you a limited license to distribute the Software or Hardware. Except as granted in this license, you may not use, run, copy, modify, display, distribute, repackage or reassemble the Software, Hardware, OPK or any part of them. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software, Hardware or OPK, except to the extent expressly permitted by this license or by applicable law notwithstanding this prohibition. All rights not expressly granted are reserved.
There is more but this is the pertinent part.
The correct license for an end user purchasing Windows, including those building their own computers and doing favors for friends and relatives, is RETAIL.
Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.- Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Monday, April 25, 2011 9:47 PM
Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:49 PMAnswerer -
"Cbarnhorst" wrote in message news:ebff57f5-6792-4304-9e1f-e6cc0d1a6495...
It is with regret that I must disagree strongly with Noel and others who sometimes advise end users to acquire and use OEM system builder copies of Windows.
<snip>
Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.
Thought you would <eg>.
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Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed SlothSaturday, April 23, 2011 4:06 PMModerator -
Colin and I have actually talked about this a bit and his reasoning was compelling.
Compelling enough that I went and looked up the OEM Licensing for myself. (Note the OEM Licensing and the OEM EULA are different. The former is for the person Making the PC, the later is for the person using the PC). As you can see from Colin's post (the underlined section) When using OEM software, the Maker of the PC and the User of the PC must ALWAYS be different people.
In other words, to qualify under the OEM Licensing, a PC using OEM software must be sold to a 3rd party.
Darin MS- Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Monday, April 25, 2011 9:53 PM
Monday, April 25, 2011 9:47 PM -
"Darin Smith MS" wrote in message news:4a2bfce9-dae5-4977-ba2f-7b3a0cb05f32...
Colin and I have actually talked about this a bit and his reasoning was compelling.
Compelling enough that I went and looked up the OEM Licensing for myself. (Note the OEM Licensing and the OEM EULA are different. The former is for the person Making the PC, the later is for the person using the PC). As you can see from Colin's post (the underlined section) When using OEM software, the Maker of the PC and the User of the PC must ALWAYS be different people.
In other words, to qualify under the OEM Licensing, a PC using OEM software must be sold to a 3rd party.
Darin MS
Having re-read it myself, finally, I have to agree. I haven't actually installed any new OEM machines since that version of the License came out (2008) so hadn't read the wording for quite a while.
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Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed SlothMonday, April 25, 2011 11:23 PMModerator