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  • Question

  • Hey guys,

    Ive been thinking of becoming a teacher.  I am in my final year of my under graduate degree in computer science. I wanted some advice on certifications. Which ones to take, how hard they are and any additional advice.

     

    Thank you,

    Dragon

    Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:30 AM

Answers

  • Hey Dragon,

    Going to be brutally honest with you. Ready? Teachers with no experience of real world development are rubbish teachers. It's all book theory with them and book theory != practical application. I know this because I've been taught by a few in my time, or at least they tried to teach me. Now I do have a lot of respect for teachers as it's a noble profession but they have to have real world experience. In fact I believe it will be very difficult to secure a teaching job without it but I wouldn't be surprised if it's only a small amount.

    What age group are you going to teach? Teaching secondary school kids computing will be completely different from teaching college or at university. I guess the real world experience needed will be less for one than the other.

    And what are you going to teach? programming, what language/technologies, or project management or object design or database design or human computer interaction?

    Anyway that's my advice. I'd get some experience first; probably about 10 years worth. :) The deyfus model of skill acquition.

     


    "The programmer, like the poet, works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff. He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination." - Fred Brooks
    • Edited by Derek Smyth Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:02 AM
    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:04 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:28 PM
    Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:01 AM
  • hello Dragon.. Well lets look at another route to pursue this career Yes you can become an instructor in your field ... but there a re a few changes i would like to recommend ..ready? in my strongest belief i feel the IT industry is taught too fast.. as Derek mentioned its all book theory,However i feel to achieve the true meaning of the "study the right way plan" is hands on , hands on , hands on . so in lew of u going for the teaching certificate ... build a unique and incredible lab that will drop jaws!!! be prepared to answer questions but the answers are not to be given ..show then through hands on and where to find them ...and last but not least ...time is not the answer but are they tough enough..did u squeeze every drop of knowledge on them... inside out can the students disect it and break it and put it back together without flaws ... then if the answer is yes then u will have taken your new students on a fantastic journey and they have become the ne " Masters Of the Game" and when its all been said and done  they will look upon you and say "well done" ..

     

    Good luck to you in your teaching field and GOD BLESS !!

      Derrick VAughn

    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:04 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:29 PM
    Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:50 PM
  • Hi again,

    Dragon if it's a career path you want to try then go for it. If you enjoy working with kids then that's what you should do. No point doing something with your life that you don't enjoy.  Actually if your talking about secondary school kids then it's really about encouraging them rather than teaching them. That's my point of view. At that age kids should be encouraged rather than being taught to. Think many teachers make that mistake. This is just personal opinion you understand.

    Going to back track and say 10 years real life experience isn't necassary for teaching kids. However, I would say that if get into teaching without that experience then it would be very difficult to get back into the industry.

    In UK all teachers need to do teachers training certificate and I have no idea about that. No idea the requirement in other countries.

    Please don't rule it out until your sure you really want to rule it out. Got to get in touch with local schools, teaching institutes, and ask them.

    Actually you know what there is someone on the forums who you should contact.

    Her name is Solitaire and she hangs around the VB Express forum. She's a teacher.

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/profile/solitaire/


    "The programmer, like the poet, works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff. He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination." - Fred Brooks
    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:04 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:29 PM
    Wednesday, November 9, 2011 10:15 AM
  •  

    "Another Career ive been thinking of is something to do in Web design or server management."

    If a career in Server Management is of interest to you, I would recommend maybe having a look at the Server 2008 MCITP Server Administration qualifications. This will provide you with the theory required and is an interesting 3 exams to take.

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/mcitp.aspx#tab2

    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:03 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:29 PM
    Friday, November 11, 2011 5:10 PM

All replies

  • Hey Dragon,

    Going to be brutally honest with you. Ready? Teachers with no experience of real world development are rubbish teachers. It's all book theory with them and book theory != practical application. I know this because I've been taught by a few in my time, or at least they tried to teach me. Now I do have a lot of respect for teachers as it's a noble profession but they have to have real world experience. In fact I believe it will be very difficult to secure a teaching job without it but I wouldn't be surprised if it's only a small amount.

    What age group are you going to teach? Teaching secondary school kids computing will be completely different from teaching college or at university. I guess the real world experience needed will be less for one than the other.

    And what are you going to teach? programming, what language/technologies, or project management or object design or database design or human computer interaction?

    Anyway that's my advice. I'd get some experience first; probably about 10 years worth. :) The deyfus model of skill acquition.

     


    "The programmer, like the poet, works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff. He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination." - Fred Brooks
    • Edited by Derek Smyth Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:02 AM
    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:04 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:28 PM
    Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:01 AM
  •  

    Thanks for the reply. I always planned on getting experince  in the work place before teaching. Its  really just one of the many different career paths ive been thinking of.

    A couple reasons ive been thinking of teaching are the teachers i had when i was in high school. They inspired me in IT/Computer Science and math. Another reason is that since i was 15 ive been working with kids/teenagers. Not in a teaching capacity but i really enjoy working with them.

    I would be more interested in teaching at a High School level. It would be an IT class and in the higher grades programming(probably Java) and project management.

     

    I was more curious witht the certifications that would help me in those areas more to get started. I might even scrap the whole idea about teaching and stick to the work place.

     

    Another Career ive been thinking of is something to do in Web design or server management.

     

    Thanks

    Friday, October 21, 2011 6:35 AM
  • hello Dragon.. Well lets look at another route to pursue this career Yes you can become an instructor in your field ... but there a re a few changes i would like to recommend ..ready? in my strongest belief i feel the IT industry is taught too fast.. as Derek mentioned its all book theory,However i feel to achieve the true meaning of the "study the right way plan" is hands on , hands on , hands on . so in lew of u going for the teaching certificate ... build a unique and incredible lab that will drop jaws!!! be prepared to answer questions but the answers are not to be given ..show then through hands on and where to find them ...and last but not least ...time is not the answer but are they tough enough..did u squeeze every drop of knowledge on them... inside out can the students disect it and break it and put it back together without flaws ... then if the answer is yes then u will have taken your new students on a fantastic journey and they have become the ne " Masters Of the Game" and when its all been said and done  they will look upon you and say "well done" ..

     

    Good luck to you in your teaching field and GOD BLESS !!

      Derrick VAughn

    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:04 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:29 PM
    Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:50 PM
  • Hi again,

    Dragon if it's a career path you want to try then go for it. If you enjoy working with kids then that's what you should do. No point doing something with your life that you don't enjoy.  Actually if your talking about secondary school kids then it's really about encouraging them rather than teaching them. That's my point of view. At that age kids should be encouraged rather than being taught to. Think many teachers make that mistake. This is just personal opinion you understand.

    Going to back track and say 10 years real life experience isn't necassary for teaching kids. However, I would say that if get into teaching without that experience then it would be very difficult to get back into the industry.

    In UK all teachers need to do teachers training certificate and I have no idea about that. No idea the requirement in other countries.

    Please don't rule it out until your sure you really want to rule it out. Got to get in touch with local schools, teaching institutes, and ask them.

    Actually you know what there is someone on the forums who you should contact.

    Her name is Solitaire and she hangs around the VB Express forum. She's a teacher.

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/profile/solitaire/


    "The programmer, like the poet, works only slightly removed from pure thought-stuff. He builds his castles in the air, from air, creating by exertion of the imagination." - Fred Brooks
    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:04 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:29 PM
    Wednesday, November 9, 2011 10:15 AM
  •  

    "Another Career ive been thinking of is something to do in Web design or server management."

    If a career in Server Management is of interest to you, I would recommend maybe having a look at the Server 2008 MCITP Server Administration qualifications. This will provide you with the theory required and is an interesting 3 exams to take.

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/mcitp.aspx#tab2

    • Proposed as answer by Dimitri C Monday, February 27, 2012 7:03 AM
    • Marked as answer by Horizon_NetEditor Monday, March 12, 2012 6:29 PM
    Friday, November 11, 2011 5:10 PM