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  • I noticed today that my DomainRank had dropped to just 1 bar from 4/5 bars. I have been keeping track of seo changes to my site and last thing I did before this most recent crawl was add a sidewide link to a pr4 website.

    Would placing a sitewide link in the footer to an outside site cause my DomainRank to crash so drastically?

    BTW : Crawler is working awesome these days.. Seems to be indexing more and more pages everytime the site gets crawled Smile
    Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:42 PM

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    Generally speaking, I would say no. Maybe a page might drop to a PR 3 or even raise to a PR 5, but not more than that I would say. Also, it would take a decent amount of links from poor neighborhoods to cause any noticeable drop in ranking.

    Each time we update the index, previous relevance rankings are revised. Therefore, you may notice a shift in your website’s ranking as new sites are added and others become obsolete.

     

    Although you can't directly change your website’s ranking, you can optimize its design and technical implementation to enable appropriate ranking by most search engines. For information about improving your website's ranking, see Guidelines for successful indexing.   Most website owners can see some improvements by doing basic white hat SEO. I recommend ensuring that:

    1. You have great content. 
    2. Get your content noticed
    3. Try to use as much text as you can. Bots can't crawl graphics

    Ensure that you are not doing any of the following:

    • Attempting to increase a page's keyword density by add lots of irrelevant words. This includes stuffing ALT tags that users are unlikely to view.
    • Using hidden text or links. Only use text and links that are visible to users.
    • Using techniques, such as link farms, to artificially increase the number of links to your page.

    Often when sites are having problems it is related to something above, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

    Monday, August 25, 2008 4:26 PM

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  • OK ive done alot of research for you, you have to following every step and i have added references. Hope this of any help! 1- Content is King - Create Title tags with keywords. For example, if your site is www.newegg.com and you sell Computer Parts and Accessories, instead of your title saying "Newegg", it should say something like "Newegg - Computer Parts and Accessories" - Use a lot of text on your site. At minimum we would recommend 100 words. Search engines cannot read graphics. If your site is primarily graphic based, then it will have trouble getting good rankings. - Create Meta Tags for your site. Meta Tags are code hidden in the background that tell search engines what your keywords and descriptions are. Almost all Web Design programs like DreamWeaver and Frontpage have an option to insert Keyword and Description Meta Tags. However, if you are hand coding with HTML then you can use our Meta Tags Generator to create Meta Tags. - Use your most important keywords about 3-8 times per 100 words. - You can use our Meta Tags and Keyword Analyzer to check your keyword Density and make sure your Meta Tags are in the correct format and length. - Create a lot of pages of content on your site - On each page of your site use relevant title tags that have keywords - If you are using a shopping cart system or have a database driven site, make sure it is search engine friendly and configured to pull the item titles and puts them in your title tags and descriptions are pulled to be placed in your Meta Tags. 2- Link Popularity - The more links there are to your site the better your rankings will be - Start a link exchange campaign with similar sites in your industry. You can look for link partners or post requests in our Link Exchange Request Forum. - The more relevant the page linking to you the better - Download the Google Toolbar and check the PageRank of the sites that you would want to do link exchange with. Try to only link with sites having a link pages of PR 3 or more. - Purchase banner ads or text links on other sites, but make sure not to use tracking code as that will not benefit your link popularity. You want the link to be a straight link to your domain. - Include your keywords in the anchor text of the links. For example, if your site is www.newegg.com and you sell Computer Parts and Accessories, instead of your title saying "Newegg", it should say "Newegg - Computer Parts and Accessories" - Check your Link Popularity using our Link Popularity Check Tool to keep up with your progress. 3- Internal Linking Structure - Make sure that your most important pages are linked from all of your other pages. - If you are using graphical, Java Script or Flash based navigation and link buttons, then create text links on the bottom of all your pages. - Try to include keywords in your text links to your internal pages. This will tell the search engines what your pages are about. 4- Submission to Search Engines and Directories - Do submit your site to major search engines manually or using a website submission service like ours. It will speed up the process of your site being discovered, specially if it is a new site and you do not have any links. - For brand new sites or sites that change their content on daily basis, we highly recommend the Overture Sitematch program which powers the Yahoo Database and will spider your site every 48 hours. If your site has been around for a while, your main page probably does not need this, but your sub-pages might need it. - Submit your site to Dmoz Open Directory which is free. However, it might take months before someone reviews your site. - Submit your site to Yahoo Directory for $299.00 ($600 for adult sites). - Look for free or fee based directories that have been around for a while and have high Google Pageranks. We have done some research and have found that the following directories will help your search engine rankings as they have high PageRanks and are indexed frequently (and in depth) by Search Engines. In addition, you would get a link from a relevant category which would also help your rankings. - Look for industry related directories and submit your site to them. 5- Other Resources - Read the past issues of our Search Engine Newsletter for more tips. - Join and participate in our Search Engine Forums. - Search Engine Watch is one of the leading SEO related news and tips websites.
    Saturday, August 16, 2008 9:15 AM
  • I've been reading lately in SEO forums about "linking to bad neighborhoods".  The idea is that you should be careful about whom you link to.  I haven't been able to find an exact definition of "bad neighborhood", but then again I haven't looked very hard.

     

    So, would it be possible for a site with a PR 4 in Google to be considered a "bad neighborhood" by Live?  If so, this might account for your domain rank crash.

     

    ... Duane

    Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:46 PM
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    Generally speaking, I would say no. Maybe a page might drop to a PR 3 or even raise to a PR 5, but not more than that I would say. Also, it would take a decent amount of links from poor neighborhoods to cause any noticeable drop in ranking.

    Each time we update the index, previous relevance rankings are revised. Therefore, you may notice a shift in your website’s ranking as new sites are added and others become obsolete.

     

    Although you can't directly change your website’s ranking, you can optimize its design and technical implementation to enable appropriate ranking by most search engines. For information about improving your website's ranking, see Guidelines for successful indexing.   Most website owners can see some improvements by doing basic white hat SEO. I recommend ensuring that:

    1. You have great content. 
    2. Get your content noticed
    3. Try to use as much text as you can. Bots can't crawl graphics

    Ensure that you are not doing any of the following:

    • Attempting to increase a page's keyword density by add lots of irrelevant words. This includes stuffing ALT tags that users are unlikely to view.
    • Using hidden text or links. Only use text and links that are visible to users.
    • Using techniques, such as link farms, to artificially increase the number of links to your page.

    Often when sites are having problems it is related to something above, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

    Monday, August 25, 2008 4:26 PM
  • My actual Page score for my home page has not dropped, but my domain score dropped overall. I dunno what it could be. I removed one of the links from my footer and my domain score never came back. My overall results have not changed at all as far as search results go.

    I will be doing serious link building here in the coming weeks.. see if anything changes at all.

    I think LiveBot may have misread my initial domain score. See what happens in the weeks to come.
    Monday, August 25, 2008 4:45 PM
  •  Brett Yount wrote:

     

    Generally speaking, I would say no. Maybe a page might drop to a PR 3 or even raise to a PR 5, but not more than that I would say. Also, it would take a decent amount of links from poor neighborhoods to cause any noticeable drop in ranking.

    Each time we update the index, previous relevance rankings are revised. Therefore, you may notice a shift in your website’s ranking as new sites are added and others become obsolete.

     

    Although you can't directly change your website’s ranking, you can optimize its design and technical implementation to enable appropriate ranking by most search engines. For information about improving your website's ranking, see Guidelines for successful indexing.   Most website owners can see some improvements by doing basic white hat SEO. I recommend ensuring that:

    1. You have great content. 
    2. Get your content noticed
    3. Try to use as much text as you can. Bots can't crawl graphics

    Ensure that you are not doing any of the following:

    • Attempting to increase a page's keyword density by add lots of irrelevant words. This includes stuffing ALT tags that users are unlikely to view.
    • Using hidden text or links. Only use text and links that are visible to users.
    • Using techniques, such as link farms, to artificially increase the number of links to your page.

    Often when sites are having problems it is related to something above, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

     

    Why would links from "poor neighborhoods" effect a sites ranking in a bad way? it wouldn't make sense if it did!

    It should not be neglected, that we can't always control who decides to link to our sites.

     

    One of my sites has actually had such a backlink spike recently, mainly due to a bunch of pointless junk sites who harvest content from other sites, some of them even mix it with their own junk. In such a case, believe it would be important not to mention them in your blog/site in any way, even more important not to link to the offending sites, since that may trigger some alerts with the search engines.

     

     

    I believe it is obvious that mentioned links would be detected payed links, or links from exchange systems. I.E. Directories who requires a backlink. I don't add my sites to such Directories, but i do add my site to open Directories when I'm not to lazy. Some of which seams to be a lot better maintained then dmoz.

     

    I don't believe that backlinks has any negative inpact, unless they are detected to be payed links, or above mentioned. Because webmasters obviously cant control who decides to link to their sites.

    Friday, August 29, 2008 7:03 AM