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Won't activate Win 7 Pro RRS feed

  • Question

  • How can a scan say my copy is "Genuine" but stil won't activate? Says key has been blocked for use by Microsoft. I think I ended up buying a counterfeit copy. (Guess cheap is too good to be true)

    Is there a way I can buy a key without having to reinstall all over again? If so please let me know where.

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-FM6HX-GVVFW-82GF7
    Windows Product Key Hash: tFMfrg05UrHUOAf4qQSgt/mBP/o=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-221-7687752-86238
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {A7679860-2746-49DF-942D-5B2493A1C1A0}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.110408-1631
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
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    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: 770bc271-8dc1-467d-b574-73cbacbeccd1
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00172-221-768775-00-1033-7601.0000-1852011
    Installation ID: 014375307773626724881592017520997193983824557253970622
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 82GF7
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 37380 minute(s) (25 day(s))
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 7/5/2011 5:48:22 PM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 6:29:2011 05:19
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MgAAAAEABAABAAEAAAACAAAAAQABAAEA6GGWzMCJEDNU8uJrOJiIvqii6kXO7ipi1sc=

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC   081810  APIC1703
      FACP   081810  FACP1703
      SRAT   AMD     FAM_F_10
      HPET   081810  OEMHPET
      MCFG   081810  OEMMCFG
      OEMB   081810  OEMB1703
      SSDT   A M I   POWERNOW

     

    Tuesday, July 5, 2011 9:59 PM

Answers

  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:ba225071-bc88-4fb7-af2f-b6729e06a940...

    How can a scan say my copy is "Genuine" but stil won't activate? Says key has been blocked for use by Microsoft. I think I ended up buying a counterfeit copy. (Guess cheap is too good to be true)

    Is there a way I can buy a key without having to reinstall all over again? If so please let me know where.

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-FM6HX-GVVFW-82GF7
    Windows Product Key Hash: tFMfrg05UrHUOAf4qQSgt/mBP/o=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-221-7687752-86238
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

     

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Partial Product Key: 82GF7
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 37380 minute(s) (25 day(s))
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 7/5/2011 5:48:22 PM

     

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table

     

     


    Both Windows and Office installations are non-genuine.....
    Your Windows Product Key is from a not-for-resale MSDN account. You need to claim an immediate refund from the vendor - do NOT accept the offer of a new key.(all they are trying to do is to get past the 45-day claims window. or avoid you sending the evidence of their crimes to the authorities)
     
    Please read the following stickies.... .......
     
    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/a2444f34-0aff-4f29-a8ac-67e28b0c0285
     
    and
     
    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/06698c46-8668-4ccd-a544-a88969265a6b
     
    The pirates have got VERY good at this over the past few years, as the price of equipment for manufacturing the packages drops, and as factories open in less well-policed countries.
     
    see also this post....
     
    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/46a58748-5a64-41ff-b7f4-f6d3b47beca9
     
     
    Also - have a look at this video....
     
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqNNiOM0cs
     
    Your Office installation is based on a Blocked Volume License Key stolen from MS itself in 2004, and immediately blocked.

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:19 PM
    • Unmarked as answer by MrShaffer Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:31 PM
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:51 PM
    Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:13 PM
    Moderator

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  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:ba225071-bc88-4fb7-af2f-b6729e06a940...

    How can a scan say my copy is "Genuine" but stil won't activate? Says key has been blocked for use by Microsoft. I think I ended up buying a counterfeit copy. (Guess cheap is too good to be true)

    Is there a way I can buy a key without having to reinstall all over again? If so please let me know where.

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-FM6HX-GVVFW-82GF7
    Windows Product Key Hash: tFMfrg05UrHUOAf4qQSgt/mBP/o=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-221-7687752-86238
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

     

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Partial Product Key: 82GF7
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 37380 minute(s) (25 day(s))
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 7/5/2011 5:48:22 PM

     

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table

     

     


    Both Windows and Office installations are non-genuine.....
    Your Windows Product Key is from a not-for-resale MSDN account. You need to claim an immediate refund from the vendor - do NOT accept the offer of a new key.(all they are trying to do is to get past the 45-day claims window. or avoid you sending the evidence of their crimes to the authorities)
     
    Please read the following stickies.... .......
     
    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/a2444f34-0aff-4f29-a8ac-67e28b0c0285
     
    and
     
    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/06698c46-8668-4ccd-a544-a88969265a6b
     
    The pirates have got VERY good at this over the past few years, as the price of equipment for manufacturing the packages drops, and as factories open in less well-policed countries.
     
    see also this post....
     
    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/46a58748-5a64-41ff-b7f4-f6d3b47beca9
     
     
    Also - have a look at this video....
     
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqNNiOM0cs
     
    Your Office installation is based on a Blocked Volume License Key stolen from MS itself in 2004, and immediately blocked.

    --


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:19 PM
    • Unmarked as answer by MrShaffer Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:31 PM
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:51 PM
    Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:13 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Thanks for helping, I informed the ebay seller and she quickly refunded me today, I found out the box/case was professionally made by someone else as a look a like. I also emailed Microsoft Piracy Team about this seller because according to her feedback she is a top rated seller and has sold 100s of microsoft software way too cheap to be true, I went by the feedback of others and fell for it like an idiot.

    I am willing to buy a real copy as I have no intention of stealing. I looked on Microsoft Website and see I can download full retail with key for $299.99 can I use that key for what I am on now or do I have to start all over again? Also can you tell me where I can buy office 2003 (my fav version) I know it is old but I like to use Microsoft Excel 2003 can you tell me if that is possible?

    Thanks for pointing out that the code determined I am on counterfiet copy.

     

    Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:24 PM
  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:ae61d64c-ef36-414d-a67e-22d2c17082d7...

    Hi Noel,

    Thanks for helping, I informed the ebay seller and she quickly refunded me today, I found out the box/case was professionally made by someone else as a look a like. I also emailed Microsoft Piracy Team about this seller because according to her feedback she is a top rated seller and has sold 100s of microsoft software way too cheap to be true, I went by the feedback of others and fell for it like an idiot.

    I am willing to buy a real copy as I have no intention of stealing. I looked on Microsoft Website and see I can download full retail with key for $299.99 can I use that key for what I am on now or do I have to start all over again? Also can you tell me where I can buy office 2003 (my fav version) I know it is old but I like to use Microsoft Excel 2003 can you tell me if that is possible?

    Thanks for pointing out that the code determined I am on counterfiet copy.

     

    I doubt very much that you'll find any legitimate new copies of Office 2003 available any more (I liked it too! - can't really get my head around the ribbon)
     
    As far as Windows is concerned, yes, you can use the Key from a Full Retail copy bought from the MS Store to activate your current install - make sure that you get the set of disks you're entitled to as well, so that you know you have a legitimate set (in case the one you have has little gremlins awaiting the rain <eg>), suitable for reinstall.
     
    You should, however, be able to find much cheaper alternatives.....
    Newegg and BestBuy (and others) have Ultimate cheaper than the MS Store.
    Do you really need Ultimate?
    For most people Pro is more than enough, and Home Premium is still enough for the majority - unfortunately using either would mean a clean install.
     
     
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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:41 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    No I am trying to get windows 7 professional like I am on now just want to get a legal copy.. I know other websites have Windows 7 Pro OEM for $139.99 like TigerDirect etc.. would that work? Or can you send me link to some that are good?

    I really wish I could keep this copy of Office 2003 it is odd that I was never informed on XP pro I used that it was blocked because it was even giving me updates. I know I am hating the ribbon thing too which is why I removed the free 90 day trail of office 2010. I guess I will just look for another Exel program.

    Thanks.

    Tuesday, July 5, 2011 10:50 PM
  • As long as Tiger Direct has a solid refund policy go ahead.  But make sure you understand the policy.

    You can get all the Office 2003 copies you want.  See

    http://computers.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=microsoft+office+2003&_sacat=41853&_odkw=&_osacat=41853&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1311

    While I wouldn't buy Office 2010 from eBay I see nothing amiss with the copies of Office 2003 on sale right now.


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.
    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 3:27 AM
    Answerer
  • Hi Cbarn,

    I got my ms office on ebay years ago and stll have it, not sure what you meant by get all the copies I want from ebay? What happens if I keep using this blocked key copy cause it still works?  I think I am pretty much done with ebay because even if I try to get office again on ebay it might be blocked too.

    I called MS again today about purchasing key for win 7 I am on now that is counterfeit but they said no I have to buy the cd and reinstall all over again. So I am at a lost on what to do becauae I get different answers from some.

    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 3:36 AM
  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:2225e9b6-5926-44ca-9fd6-979c93acb7a5...

    Hi Noel,

    No I am trying to get windows 7 professional like I am on now just want to get a legal copy.. I know other websites have Windows 7 Pro OEM for $139.99 like TigerDirect etc.. would that work? Or can you send me link to some that are good?

    I really wish I could keep this copy of Office 2003 it is odd that I was never informed on XP pro I used that it was blocked because it was even giving me updates. I know I am hating the ribbon thing too which is why I removed the free 90 day trail of office 2010. I guess I will just look for another Exel program.

    Thanks.


    Ooops! - sorry - it was late :)
    As Colin has (probably) said, you do not want to buy an OEM copy of Windows for a number of reasons - stick with Retail.
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 6:25 AM
    Moderator
  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:7702c2b2-5846-4a44-986f-a9738bf6ea6e...

    Hi Cbarn,

    I got my ms office on ebay years ago and stll have it, not sure what you meant by get all the copies I want from ebay? What happens if I keep using this blocked key copy cause it still works?  I think I am pretty much done with ebay because even if I try to get office again on ebay it might be blocked too.

    I called MS again today about purchasing key for win 7 I am on now that is counterfeit but they said no I have to buy the cd and reinstall all over again. So I am at a lost on what to do becauae I get different answers from some.


    So long as you purchase a Retail disk, of the same edition, you can just change the Key without a problem.

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 6:27 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Thanks. I went on the ebay sellers feedback profile and clicked every members ID that purchased the same software and warned them about it. Most already knew some didn't. It appears the seller knew 10 days in advance and still sold it to me and never removed them from her store till I called her out on it. I do see she removed win 7 but still selling windows server 2008 for $199 with 5 cal's. and people buying them. I hope microsoft reads my email to take action on her, she is in Texas.

    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 1:01 PM
  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:f8b52a77-ddca-4e28-9be6-e7a0e0716854...

    Hi Noel,

    Thanks. I went on the ebay sellers feedback profile and clicked every members ID that purchased the same software and warned them about it. Most already knew some didn't. It appears the seller knew 10 days in advance and still sold it to me and never removed them from her store till I called her out on it. I do see she removed win 7 but still selling windows server 2008 for $199 with 5 cal's. and people buying them. I hope microsoft reads my email to take action on her, she is in Texas.


    Good on year!
    MS inevitably do take action on repeat offenders - it just takes time.

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 2:01 PM
    Moderator
  • Why is OEM not a good idea anyway? Everywhere I look all it explains is that OEM just means a green package saying it is the same thing but cheaper without the box and case. Is there a hidden secret?
    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 2:59 PM
  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:3c085934-d8db-47e3-8fec-60370e0187c9...
    Why is OEM not a good idea anyway? Everywhere I look all it explains is that OEM just means a green package saying it is the same thing but cheaper without the box and case. Is there a hidden secret?

    Very much so!
    OEM licenses carry no entitlement to support from MS
    OEM Licenses are tied to the first motherboard on which they are activated - if the motherboard dies 2 minutes later, then it's not transferable to a new one except under very specific conditions.
    ...and a few other relatively minor restrictions.
    I never recommend OEM Licenses in anything other than a brand-new system, where the installer has sufficient knowledge to be able to support the system properly.
     
     
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 3:40 PM
    Moderator
  • Why is OEM not a good idea anyway? Everywhere I look all it explains is that OEM just means a green package saying it is the same thing but cheaper without the box and case. Is there a hidden secret?


    Because of what OEM stands for; Original Equipment Manufacturer, which you are not.  The "hidden secret" isn't hidden at all.  It is the System Builder license that is printed on the outside of the OEM pack.  It's major terms are repeated on the product details tab on the reseller's website.  The most important term is that OEM Windows is for installing on a computer for sale to a customer.  Unless you are building a computer for sale to a customer you would be out of compliance with the system builder license.  It is not for personal use (the license says so).  It is not discounted software.  It is for persons who run computer shops and such to put Windows on customers' computers at a profit.  The installer is required to use the OEM Preinstallation Kit to install the software.  There are other terms.  Microsoft makes it very clear in the SB license that OEM packs are not for end user purchase and use.  The correct end user Windows license is retail.

    The OS is the most important part of your comptuter.  Don't try to cut corners.  Stick with retail and then you have a Windows that is supported by Microsoft and which you can transfer from an old computer to a new one if the occasion arises.


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Wednesday, July 6, 2011 4:12 PM
    Answerer
  • Then how come places like Best Buy and Comp USA use the OEM when they fix your computer for you? If this is suppose to be for new pc's for resale it makes no sence that they are using it to fix computers too for people and selling them a copy.

    One of the ebay users told me he went to Comp USA and they gave him OEM Win 7 Pro for $150. I even look at feedback on tigerdirect site where the win 7 pro OEM is and it has plenty of proof people are using it for personal use.

    I seriously think if Microsoft wanted to help PC Builder businesses they would sell them in a bulk of 4 so the price is higher and less confusion.

    OEM is sold as just the CD no booklets or case or box.. not with a paper saying this is for new pc's for resale only not personal use. Using the term "Original Equipment Manufacturer" (OEM) doesn't explain that well to most of us, all it made me believe is that I am buying the "Original" copy and might have to go thruough tons of updates to bring it up to date.


    Thursday, July 7, 2011 2:00 PM
  • "MrShaffer" wrote in message news:3f78aa41-4edf-45a9-924f-29b50d2daf08...

    Then how come places like Best Buy and Comp USA use the OEM when they fix your computer for you? If this is suppose to be for new pc's for resale it makes no sence that they are using it to fix computers too for people and selling them a copy.

    One of the ebay users told me he went to Comp USA and they gave him OEM Win 7 Pro for $150. I even look at feedback on tigerdirect site where the win 7 pro OEM is and it has plenty of proof people are using it for personal use.

    I seriously think if Microsoft wanted to help PC Builder businesses they would sell them in a bulk of 4 so the price is higher and less confusion.

    OEM is sold as just the CD no booklets or case or box.. not with a paper saying this is for new pc's for resale only not personal use. Using the term "Original Equipment Manufacturer" (OEM) doesn't explain that well to most of us, all it made me believe is that I am buying the "Original" copy and might have to go thruough tons of updates to bring it up to date.



    They don't - or at least, they shouldn't - use OEM System Builder Keys, unless they are prepared to then take on the responsibility for support of the PC and the software.
    They CAN reinstall using either the manufacturer's recovery media, or their own media and the COA Key from your computer - which would both put OEM into the ProductID displayed on your System Properties page.
    OEM System Builder packs are available in a 3-pack (or a 10-pack, IIRC, or in bulk). The single packs are intended for people like me, who build maybe 2 systems a year, rather than 2 a week.
    If you get the full OEM pack, one whole side of the pack should be taken up by the System Builder's license - which spells out the requirements, and specifically states that
    1) The license is for System Builders,
    2) it must installed in machines for sale to a third party, along with the disk.
    3) the System Builder is responsible for supporting the end-user for software problems
     
     
     Unfortunately a lot of otherwise reputable places take the view that they can purchase (say) a 3-pack and them increase their margins by splitting it for sale as 3 singletons - which actually voids the license terms.
    There's a very long thread here about this issue - http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_install/can-i-continue-to-use-windows-xp-oem-if-i-change/1872b301-85b3-420f-bd97-0ef4abc2b3ed - and I really don't want to rehash it again so soon after the last time.
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:42 PM
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