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Are there more off-topic posts in here because NNTP bridge users are seeing this *only* as "reportabug"?

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Are statistics being kept about the origin of off-topic posts in here? E.g. I would like to know how many of them are coming from the NNTP bridge, where posters may otherwise be oblivious that the topic is "forum issues" because the "newsgroup" they see is called "reportabug". ; }
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Yes, we have work to do to make it easier for users to find the right place to engage. Most of the posts to report a bug forums that aren't supposed to be logged there are web based posts. No recent posts or threads have come from the bridge in the forums issues (reportabug) forum. There have only been like 6 posts total over the life of the bridge to date to that forum.
Community Forums Program Manager- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:00 AM
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I very much doubt if this is a significant effect. There must be very few NNTP bridge users, and they are mostly quite savvy.
Off-topic posts in this forum are mostly novices, IMHO.
David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:01 AM
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I very much doubt if this is a significant effect. There must be very few NNTP bridge users, and they are mostly quite savvy.
Off-topic posts in this forum are mostly novices, IMHO.
David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:01 AM
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Do we have any idea how many Bridge users there are?Some forums have many more posts off- than on-topic, and it's a real burden for those answerers and mods that take the trouble to point questioners in the right direction. Having learnt that there are now 90,000,000 copies of Win7 in circulation, none of them with a native e-mail client and most of them in the hands of private users (see for example Mary Jo's recent post quoting the MS CFO), it is reasonable to expect an avalanche of questions about the recommended client - Windows Live Mail. Yet there is still no forum for such questions, and MSFT mods simply advise enquirers (in my view quite wrongly) to contact Support, which is probably completely swamped. See for example the last page or two of posts in the WLE vents forum, where PA Bear is trying very hard to rescue an almost impossible situation.It is to my mind extremely pressing to (a) introduce some portal that all newcomers have to pass through with clear instructions on where to post. This should include the newsgroups for products like WLMail and WLMessenger and others with no forum, and (b) get the WLMail and Messenger forums up and running to accommodate all those new Win7 users.Someone should perhaps check - say for a start in a single forum like WLEvents - what route new enquirers are taking to arrive there, and put up some diversion signs.
Noel -
> Do we have any idea how many Bridge users there are?
All I'm sure of is that it is going to go up whatever it is at now.
> Some forums have many more posts off- than on-topic, and it's a real
> burden for those answerers and mods that take the trouble to point
> questioners in the right direction.
Or they will be abandoned which seems to be what has happened here:
Newsgroups: Msdn.en-US.SearchFeedback
> See for example the last page or two of posts in the WLE vents forum,
> where PA Bear is trying very hard to rescue an almost impossible
> situation.
Interesting parsing! <eg>
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> It is to my mind extremely pressing to (a) introduce some portal that all
> newcomers have to pass through with clear instructions on where to post.
> This should include the newsgroups for products like WLMail and
> WLMessenger and others with no forum, and (b) get the WLMail and Messenger
> forums up and running to accommodate all those new Win7 users.
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> Someone should perhaps check - say for a start in a single forum like
> WLEvents - what route new enquirers are taking to arrive there, and put up
> some diversion signs.
No kidding. What were they thinking?
<title> Windows Live Forums </title>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/group/LiveAnswers
WL Events is the only possible route that WLMail or WLMessenger questions
could take from there. Bizarre.
WTH are WL Events anyway? Without knowing anything specific I would just
guess that it is some arcane way of describing the interactivity implied by
WLMessenger and to a lesser extent WLMail. There are no clues about that
on that page. Could this be a localization issue? E.g. only EN-US users
see a more complete offering of forums on that page? ICIM mine will be
EN-CA.
Thanks for the response, Noel.
Robert
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Yes, we have work to do to make it easier for users to find the right place to engage. Most of the posts to report a bug forums that aren't supposed to be logged there are web based posts. No recent posts or threads have come from the bridge in the forums issues (reportabug) forum. There have only been like 6 posts total over the life of the bridge to date to that forum.
Community Forums Program Manager- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:00 AM