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Hi All,
I've got a situation that I could use some advice on. I have Live Mesh installed on my main desktop, and my laptop.
My main desktop is running on a RAID-0 array, and recently one of the drives in the array started to fail. I'm all backed up (using a backup utility, not Mesh), and I'm about to send the bad drive back to the manufacturer. When I receive the new drive I will of course have to reformat, re-install windows, and then restore my files from backup.
My question is, what's the best way to handle adding Live Mesh back into the mix? My options are, I think:
1). Restore the files from backup, then sync the existing folders to their counterparts in the Cloud and on my laptop, using the "sync existing folder to this location feature."
2). Remove all devices from my mesh, restore from backup, then re-create the mesh from scratch using the recently restored files as a master copy.
Option 1 strikes me as faster, but option 2 is safer I think, so I'm leaning that way.
What do you think? Anything I'm missing?
- Changed type Ben [Live Mesh] Monday, January 5, 2009 11:32 PM Making an open discussion
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:27 AM
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Hi,
It seems to me that both options are good ones, and I think you've identified the relevant strengths of each. Given that, I'd suggest going with whichever option you are most comfortable with (and since you have all the files backed up independently, neither option would endanger your data). Either way you go, we'd love to hear about how it went. :)
Thanks,
Ben.Monday, January 5, 2009 11:31 PM -
Okay, so I reformatted the drive and restored the non-Mesh folders from backup. I elected to let Live Mesh restore the Live folders from my laptop/internet for all my mesh folders, and that seems to have worked fine.The only exception was my music folder. Since it's ~43 GB, I restored it from backup and told Live Mesh to sync the folder to that location. No conflicts showed up, but Live Mesh is now attempting to transfer 45GB from my desktop to my laptop, and also 45GB laptop to my desktop. It appears that Live Mesh is trying to sync an additional copy of the folder to both machines.Should I delete the copy on my desktop and allow Live Mesh to transfer the whole thing from my laptop? Or did I do something wrong somewhere along the way?Thanks for your help,MaxWednesday, January 28, 2009 3:32 AM
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dishragwhore said:
Okay, so I reformatted the drive and restored the non-Mesh folders from backup. I elected to let Live Mesh restore the Live folders from my laptop/internet for all my mesh folders, and that seems to have worked fine.
The only exception was my music folder. Since it's ~43 GB, I restored it from backup and told Live Mesh to sync the folder to that location. No conflicts showed up, but Live Mesh is now attempting to transfer 45GB from my desktop to my laptop, and also 45GB laptop to my desktop. It appears that Live Mesh is trying to sync an additional copy of the folder to both machines.Should I delete the copy on my desktop and allow Live Mesh to transfer the whole thing from my laptop? Or did I do something wrong somewhere along the way?Thanks for your help,Max
Hi Max,So, just to be clear, a second folder (i.e., in addition to the music folder already there) has appeared on your desktop with files coming over from the laptop? If so, it would appear that Live Mesh thinks you have two separate folders that you want to sync (i.e., that the music folder syncing desktop-to-laptop is a different one than the folder syncing laptop-to-desktop). Would you mind providing a little more detail about how you set up the sync relationship for the music folder (that appears to be two folders)? Of course, if I've misunderstood something, please let me know that, too.
Deleting the folder on one computer and just having it sync fresh from the other is, of course, an option - it may not be a very attractive one with such a large amount of data, but it is the most straightforward option since, even if we figure out why you appear to have two separate folders (on each computer?) syncing each direction, getting a single folder to sync may result in conflicts (if, e.g., you've played some of those music files on one computer but not the other with a music player that updates metadata when a file is played).
We may first want to figure out why you apparently have two folders syncing where there should only be one, but if you decide to just start the sync over using one computer as the source that should work. Please let me know how you choose to proceed, and if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Ben.
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:52 PM -
Hello,Strangely, Live Mesh did not create a second folder on my desktop as if it was transferring a copy of each folder, but it was definitely eating up my hard drive, so it was creating a folder somewhere, I think. Here is the exact sequence of events:--I had my My Music folder synced to the laptop and the desktop, but not the mesh.--one of the hard drives on my desktop began to fail, but I was able to make a fresh backup before it did. I removed the hard drive and RMA'd it to the manufacturer.--While the desktop was bricked, I purchased and downloaded several albums to my laptop.--When the new hard drive arrived, I installed a new copy of Vista Home Premium x64.--I restored a copy of the My Music folder from the backup that I had made several weeks earlier to my main desktop drive--I set the My Music mesh folder to sync to that location.--Live Mesh began transferring ~65GB of information (about the size of the My Music folder) in both directions, but did not create a second folder location on either computer, at least not one that I could find.Hope this helps. I ended up with umpteen million conflicts, although I think this was correct behavior since when I restored the desktop version from backup it reset the "date modified" tag, so Live Mesh had no way of knowing which files were newer.Because of the conflicts, I gave up and removed the folder from Live Mesh, deleted the desktop version entirely, and resynced to the now empty folder. It is now in the process of transferring the newer copy on my laptop over to my desktop, and appears to be working correctly.Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:29 PM
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dishragwhore said:
Hello,
Strangely, Live Mesh did not create a second folder on my desktop as if it was transferring a copy of each folder, but it was definitely eating up my hard drive, so it was creating a folder somewhere, I think. Here is the exact sequence of events:--I had my My Music folder synced to the laptop and the desktop, but not the mesh.--one of the hard drives on my desktop began to fail, but I was able to make a fresh backup before it did. I removed the hard drive and RMA'd it to the manufacturer.--While the desktop was bricked, I purchased and downloaded several albums to my laptop.--When the new hard drive arrived, I installed a new copy of Vista Home Premium x64.--I restored a copy of the My Music folder from the backup that I had made several weeks earlier to my main desktop drive--I set the My Music mesh folder to sync to that location.--Live Mesh began transferring ~65GB of information (about the size of the My Music folder) in both directions, but did not create a second folder location on either computer, at least not one that I could find.Hope this helps. I ended up with umpteen million conflicts, although I think this was correct behavior since when I restored the desktop version from backup it reset the "date modified" tag, so Live Mesh had no way of knowing which files were newer.Because of the conflicts, I gave up and removed the folder from Live Mesh, deleted the desktop version entirely, and resynced to the now empty folder. It is now in the process of transferring the newer copy on my laptop over to my desktop, and appears to be working correctly.
Hi,
Ah, I think I understand: My guess is that the files were being stored in the Live Mesh holding area pending resolution of the conflicts (that is how it's supposed to work). So, it did not create a second folder (nor think there were two different Live Mesh folders), but was filling up the holding area with conflicts. That folder would have emptied as you resolved the conflicts - but you worked around that by simply starting over. Does that sound about right?
Of course, situations like this will be less cumbersome once Live Mesh has the ability to do "delta sync," only copying over the parts of a file that have actually changed, but right now a conflict will result in the entire file being copied again - and, as you've seen, will require you to resolve the conflicts before it can do anything else.
Please let me know if I've misunderstood anything, or if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Ben.Monday, February 2, 2009 5:30 PM