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  • Hello folks..

    I hope you don't mind me picking your brains. I am considering an attempt at MCITP certification via distance learning/self study. I understand a good place to start is by studying for the 70-640 exam.

    1. Is this a wise course of action as a starting point? (I currently work in IT support and have been doing so for a number of years so I have some experience)

    2. Will I need a 64bit PC to host Server 2008 with a minimum of 4GB RAM that will support a couple of virtual DCs and a client? I'm not sure what hardware I'll need to complete the courses involved.

    In addition, I may have to take my time to complete the whole certification (I work full time).

    3. what constraints are placed on the software (or trial version I get with a self study kit) if it expires?

    Thank you in anticipation...

    Diffy

    Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:06 AM

Answers

  • Hi Diffy,

    I personally think it's a brave under taking attempting a Microsoft Certification without direct support from your employer.

    I recommend trying to negociate with your current employer as much exposure to the following exam skills measured as possible; - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?id=70-640 (within your day job as an IT support professional). If not then frankly I think you need to move onto an employer who will.

    I am sure working through the training kit in your own time will also help you prepare. However nothing replaces commercial experience; - http://www.amazon.com/Self-Paced-Training-Kit-Exam-70-640/dp/0735651930/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353190124&sr=8-1&keywords=70-640

    I am not aware of any trial software licenses which comes with the above training kit.

    I hope someone who has experience of passing this exam can give you a more comprehensive answer, however this is a new exam.

    I'm just speaking out of my own experience of passing the MCTS BI exam. I understand putting on your CV that you are studying for a Microsoft Certification in your own time will look very attractive to potiential employers.

    Kind Regards,

    Kieran.


    If you have found any of my posts helpful then please vote them as helpful. Kieran Patrick Wood MCTS BI,MCC, PGD SoftDev (Open), MBCS http://www.innovativebusinessintelligence.com http://uk.linkedin.com/in/kieranpatrickwood


    Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:19 PM

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  • Hi Diffy,

    I personally think it's a brave under taking attempting a Microsoft Certification without direct support from your employer.

    I recommend trying to negociate with your current employer as much exposure to the following exam skills measured as possible; - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?id=70-640 (within your day job as an IT support professional). If not then frankly I think you need to move onto an employer who will.

    I am sure working through the training kit in your own time will also help you prepare. However nothing replaces commercial experience; - http://www.amazon.com/Self-Paced-Training-Kit-Exam-70-640/dp/0735651930/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353190124&sr=8-1&keywords=70-640

    I am not aware of any trial software licenses which comes with the above training kit.

    I hope someone who has experience of passing this exam can give you a more comprehensive answer, however this is a new exam.

    I'm just speaking out of my own experience of passing the MCTS BI exam. I understand putting on your CV that you are studying for a Microsoft Certification in your own time will look very attractive to potiential employers.

    Kind Regards,

    Kieran.


    If you have found any of my posts helpful then please vote them as helpful. Kieran Patrick Wood MCTS BI,MCC, PGD SoftDev (Open), MBCS http://www.innovativebusinessintelligence.com http://uk.linkedin.com/in/kieranpatrickwood


    Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:19 PM
  • Hi Kieran

    Thanks for taking the time and effort to respond.

    In a nutshell....

    I left my last employer after 13 years because of "management restructure" where I was "manoeuvred" out of my network manager role
    (this was not due to any lack of my performance I might add ... my salary stayed the same).
    I'm four months in with a new employer where I have little or no responsibility alongside limited access. No prospects at all. 
    I had an indication of this at interview so I knew what I was getting into. I don't anticipate dwelling here too long.

    I am really reluctant to allow my current employer any involvement in my certification (I want to set my own targets/workload etc.).
    I assume they will want more than a pound of flesh for even 1 ducat of their contribution .... especially if I take my studying to a new employer.

    Regarding software....I saw that some self-paced study books come with a limited use Windows Server OS disk.
    I didn't want to get part way through the course and the license expire.

    This set of books comes with CDs (it seems a better deal 3 books for the price of 2) .... I wonder what happens when the trial licence expires...what features are disabled etc.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/MCITP-Windows-Server-2008-Administrator/dp/0735663289/ref=pd_cp_b_0

    I'm currently looking at the spec of some of the servers on offer on ebay....seems like I could get a refurb one for £100-150 with a short warranty ..... as long as it does what the course needs it to do (and it's not too noisey some of them are as loud as %&ell) 

    Once again thanks for your assistance Kieran

      
    Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:31 AM
  • Can someone else contribute to this thread who has experience in gaining a microsoft certification related to Windows Server administration.

    Hi Diffy,

    Can we continue our conversation via e-mail. My e-mail address is

    Kieran(AT)innovativebusinessintelligence.com

    (replace (AT) with @)

    Kind Regards,

    Kieran.


    If you have found any of my posts helpful then please vote them as helpful. Kieran Patrick Wood MCTS BI,MCC, PGD SoftDev (Open), MBCS http://www.innovativebusinessintelligence.com http://uk.linkedin.com/in/kieranpatrickwood


    Sunday, November 18, 2012 4:53 PM
  • Hi Kieran

    Thanks for taking the time and effort to respond.

    In a nutshell....

    I left my last employer after 13 years because of "management restructure" where I was "manoeuvred" out of my network manager role
    (this was not due to any lack of my performance I might add ... my salary stayed the same).
    I'm four months in with a new employer where I have little or no responsibility alongside limited access. No prospects at all. 
    I had an indication of this at interview so I knew what I was getting into. I don't anticipate dwelling here too long.

    I am really reluctant to allow my current employer any involvement in my certification (I want to set my own targets/workload etc.).
    I assume they will want more than a pound of flesh for even 1 ducat of their contribution .... especially if I take my studying to a new employer.

    Regarding software....I saw that some self-paced study books come with a limited use Windows Server OS disk.
    I didn't want to get part way through the course and the license expire.

    This set of books comes with CDs (it seems a better deal 3 books for the price of 2) .... I wonder what happens when the trial licence expires...what features are disabled etc.

    I'm currently looking at the spec of some of the servers on offer on ebay....seems like I could get a refurb one for £100-150 with a short warranty ..... as long as it does what the course needs it to do (and it's not too noisey some of them are as loud as %&ell) 

    Once again thanks for your assistance Kieran

      

    Let me know what kind of lab  you set up as I am also looking to set one up. I currently have Windows server 2008 r2 standard that my brother in law uses at his business that he let me use to set up a lab. I subscribed to the CBT Nuggets videos and am trying to follow him and do what he does in the videos to get better acquainted with it. Let me know how you set yours up.
    Sunday, November 18, 2012 4:58 PM
  • 3. what constraints are placed on the software (or trial version I get with a self study kit) if it expires?

    The software that comes with this training kit is limited to 180 days.  After this period has lapsed, you will no longer be able to login to Windows Server i.e. you will no longer be able to access the Windows Server environment.


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