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  • certification  Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician (MCDST) , Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA),Microsoft Certified Applications Developer (MCAD),Microsoft Certified Solution Developer (MCSD) . what will take the place of theses ??? i have more to list i will post it on the next post ?
    • Edited by ps3repair1980 Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:49 AM add
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:31 AM

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  • so let me get this right what you telling me is that mcdba is totally removed because mcitp has replace it . am i correct ?

    Not "totally removed". If you have a MCDBA certification, it is still valid and it doesn't expire. However, you can no longer get that certification because the required exams have been retired.

     can you also tell me a site to go to for more updates on the Microsoft certifications ???

    Well, the official ms learning site is pretty good:

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-default.aspx

    You may also wish to follow the BornToLearn blog:

    http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/

     

     

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 10:39 AM
  • First, the majority of your questions can be answered by checking out the Microsoft Certifications site - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/default.aspx

    SERIOUSLY, almost all of your questions can be answered there.

    Second, be VERY careful on asking for "free" e-books, as that is potentially a violation of both Microsoft Certification, and this forum's rules.  You should read through the exam policies page of the Microsoft Learning site - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/exam-policies.aspx

    The MCAS certification has been eliminated.  It's been replaced with the Microsoft Office Specialist (MOS) certification.

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:31 PM
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  • Hi,

    I understood that you want to build web applications and administrate them.

    You was alrady pointed to the MCPD certification which is the Microsoft certification that covers this development so regarding microsoft certification that should be, what you are looking for.

    There is no certification about "administrate web applications". That is not such an easy thing. You could limit it to IIS but then it is a very small area only that is not enough. Instead you need to understand windows rights, event log and all these things so in total the enterprise administrator stuff could be great. And web applications are normaly using a dataabse backend and if you want to administrate a large site, then a database administrator could be a usefull certification.

    And with that we covered the Microsoft certifications that could be nice. Of course there are other vendors and technologies. But it makes no sense to ask in here about these. If you want to work with Java and their Application Servers, then go and look for Java certifications and JBoss certifications (or whatever application server you want to use). But then ask the Java community or JBoss community and not here in the Microsoft community, because Microsoft did the (in my eyes only reasonable) step to move away from Java when Sun went to court because they wanted to prevent that Microsoft is changeing Java on their own in any way - I think it was the time of XP SP2 when Microsoft removed the Microsoft Java VM from the windows operating system.

    But it is completly your decision what you want to do in the future. Whenever you have questions regarding Microsoft trainings and certifications you are welcome in here and we will try to help you further.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    Saturday, February 5, 2011 10:45 AM
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  • MCDBA has been superseded by MCITP:Database Administrator.

    MCAD and MCSD have given way to several variations on MCPD (Microsoft Certified Professional Developer), for instance, "MCPD:Web Developer" or "MCPD:Enterprise Applications Developer".

    MCDST would probably be equivalent to one of the various MCITP certifications related to Windows Client, for instance, MCITP:Windows 7 Enterprise Desktop Support Technician. See http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab3

     

     

     

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:26 AM
  • MCDBA has been superseded by MCITP:Database Administrator.

    MCAD and MCSD have given way to several variations on MCPD (Microsoft Certified Professional Developer), for instance, "MCPD:Web Developer" or "MCPD:Enterprise Applications Developer".

    MCDST would probably be equivalent to one of the various MCITP certifications related to Windows Client, for instance, MCITP:Windows 7 Enterprise Desktop Support Technician. See http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab3

     

     

     


    so let me get this right what you telling me is that mcdba is totally removed because mcitp has replace it . am i correct ? on the mcad and mcsd  been both replace by mcpd . am i correct . can you also tell me a site to go to for more updates on the Microsoft certifications ???
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:51 AM
  • so let me get this right what you telling me is that mcdba is totally removed because mcitp has replace it . am i correct ?

    Not "totally removed". If you have a MCDBA certification, it is still valid and it doesn't expire. However, you can no longer get that certification because the required exams have been retired.

     can you also tell me a site to go to for more updates on the Microsoft certifications ???

    Well, the official ms learning site is pretty good:

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-default.aspx

    You may also wish to follow the BornToLearn blog:

    http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/

     

     

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 10:39 AM
  • so let me get this right what you telling me is that mcdba is totally removed because mcitp has replace it . am i correct ?

    Not "totally removed". If you have a MCDBA certification, it is still valid and it doesn't expire. However, you can no longer get that certification because the required exams have been retired.

     can you also tell me a site to go to for more updates on the Microsoft certifications ???

    Well, the official ms learning site is pretty good:

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-default.aspx

    You may also wish to follow the BornToLearn blog:

    http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/

     

     


    about for new Microsoft certifications that will be coming  out how would i find that out ??

    i meant was  mcdba was replace by mcitp technology ?

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:17 AM
  • what happen to the MCAS certification ? is microsoft  mcp and mca is i can't find them ???i also need to ask this question is there any certifications for web developer,web administrator,web graphic designer,webmaster,web programmers . do anybody knows what way i can go for internet certifications ? and also how can i get free e-books for studying towards the exams ??? any links will help too or suggestions here is my e-mail ps3repair1980@hotmail.com to send me more information thank you
    • Edited by ps3repair1980 Wednesday, February 2, 2011 12:12 PM add e-mail
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:27 AM
  • First, the majority of your questions can be answered by checking out the Microsoft Certifications site - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/default.aspx

    SERIOUSLY, almost all of your questions can be answered there.

    Second, be VERY careful on asking for "free" e-books, as that is potentially a violation of both Microsoft Certification, and this forum's rules.  You should read through the exam policies page of the Microsoft Learning site - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/exam-policies.aspx

    The MCAS certification has been eliminated.  It's been replaced with the Microsoft Office Specialist (MOS) certification.

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:31 PM
    Answerer
  • Second, be VERY careful on asking for "free" e-books, as that is potentially a violation of both Microsoft Certification, and this forum's rules.

    Why would free e-books be in violation of any rules? Microsoft does ocasionally offer free eBooks for studying the technologies related to the exams. These e-Books are not only allowed, but in fact recommended by Microsoft for exam preparation. For example, for a limited time Microsoft is offering for free the e-book "Introducing SQL Server 2008 R2". http://www.computerbooksonline.com/n2tech/index.php/free-ebook-offer-introducing-microsoft-sql-server-2008 . It is perfectly legitimate for you to donwload and study this eBook if you are preparing for a SQL Server exam.

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 2:25 PM
  • Because "free" doesn't always equate to "legal".  Agreed that the above link would be good to assist in learning SQL. 

    As Rubel notes in the "How to use this forum" post -

  • No copyright material . Please do not ask for links to books etc or any other copyright material
Wednesday, February 2, 2011 2:47 PM
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  • i also need to ask this question is there any certifications for web developer,web administrator,web graphic designer,webmaster,web programmers . do anybody knows what way i can go for internet certifications from Microsoft or from any others  ? is e-books is legal to buy ???? do anyone know ????
    • Edited by ps3repair1980 Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:46 PM add
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:43 PM
  • yes, there are certifications for some of the ones you listed.  I'd suggest you do a search for these.  As to where to go for "internet certifications", much depends upon what you mean by this.  There are online programs available for most of the categories you listed.  Some are legit, some aren't. 

    All of Microsoft's certifications are listed on their Microsoft Learning website.
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-default.aspx

    Yes, you can purchase "e-books" legally, from reputable distributors (i.e. the publisher, Amazon, etc.).

    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:58 PM
    Answerer
  • yes, there are certifications for some of the ones you listed.  I'd suggest you do a search for these.  As to where to go for "internet certifications", much depends upon what you mean by this.  There are online programs available for most of the categories you listed.  Some are legit, some aren't. 

    All of Microsoft's certifications are listed on their Microsoft Learning website.
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-default.aspx

    Yes, you can purchase "e-books" legally, from reputable distributors (i.e. the publisher, Amazon, etc.).


    i tried to search them but mostly that come up were like certificates for the degrees but i don't want that . i want IT certifications that for the internet certifications for web developer,web administrator,web graphic designer,webmaster,web programmers. i know Microsoft one is the mcpd but i want more information on it . well i do make website, etc. i just want to know what other companies that have theses certifications .  
    Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:35 PM
  • do anybody knows ?
    Thursday, February 3, 2011 5:49 PM
  • i only can find degrees on the ones i want but no certifications please help
    Friday, February 4, 2011 9:36 AM
  • i am lost ??
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 8:12 AM
  • Hi,

    I understood that you want to build web applications and administrate them.

    You was alrady pointed to the MCPD certification which is the Microsoft certification that covers this development so regarding microsoft certification that should be, what you are looking for.

    There is no certification about "administrate web applications". That is not such an easy thing. You could limit it to IIS but then it is a very small area only that is not enough. Instead you need to understand windows rights, event log and all these things so in total the enterprise administrator stuff could be great. And web applications are normaly using a dataabse backend and if you want to administrate a large site, then a database administrator could be a usefull certification.

    And with that we covered the Microsoft certifications that could be nice. Of course there are other vendors and technologies. But it makes no sense to ask in here about these. If you want to work with Java and their Application Servers, then go and look for Java certifications and JBoss certifications (or whatever application server you want to use). But then ask the Java community or JBoss community and not here in the Microsoft community, because Microsoft did the (in my eyes only reasonable) step to move away from Java when Sun went to court because they wanted to prevent that Microsoft is changeing Java on their own in any way - I think it was the time of XP SP2 when Microsoft removed the Microsoft Java VM from the windows operating system.

    But it is completly your decision what you want to do in the future. Whenever you have questions regarding Microsoft trainings and certifications you are welcome in here and we will try to help you further.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    Saturday, February 5, 2011 10:45 AM
    Answerer
  • i wish to see on Microsoft certifications they really should start doing new technologies on the internet such as in html ,xml ,etc . how can i request that because i make websites ?
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 11:33 AM
  • Hi,

    my personal view is, that microsoft offers certifications that base on their technology / products. HTML / XML / XHTML / CSS are just standards (e.g. see http://www.w3.org/standards/).

    So at least Microsoft is not offering any certifications for these topics only but of course: The Microsoft Technology is based on these standards, too. So an ASP.Net page is just (x)html (+ css) + scripts on the client side. But Microsoft is more or less concentrating on the higher features of ASP.Net so you learn how you do anything on the development side.

    So my understanding is, that Microsoft is interested in certifications about Microsoft stuff only. The core interest of Microsoft is selling their products and not to teach people html, CSS, XML and such stuff. (But of course: My understanding can be limited. But stuff like just XML or so is something I only know from companies who sell trainings and so on. So as an example I had an exam long time in the past where I learned about XML and Transforms and all this crap and got some kind of "certification" which is just a "I attended successfull at this training" which is not really worth something.)

    Of course: You can contact Microsoft and tell them your opinion. Microsoft runs a special page designed for feedback and bug reports: http://connect.microsoft.com Check if there is an area about certifications and exams.

    Another possibility is to contact the microsoft support. The regional support center can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/help/assisted-support.aspx

    I hope this helped a little.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    Saturday, February 5, 2011 11:45 AM
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  • thank you but it would be nice to see a good internet certification that is saying like i am certified that all can't blame me
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 12:07 PM
  • i find couple website of internet certifications :) and i will share the information with you
    Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:05 AM