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TechNet forums weirdness

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  • I have not been able to open TechNet forums using the usual host name today but can both see and post to them by substituting  MSDN for TechNet!  WTH?

    Also, while I was trying to understand the symptom I used nslookup to find an IP address and then used that to connect via HTTP.  The forum brand which I got was Expression!?  Also, InPrivate browsing as an option worked a bit until I needed to Sign in.



    Robert Aldwinckle
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    Monday, May 16, 2016 1:48 PM

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  • I have had no problems browsing / posting today over here.

    https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/home?category=windowsserver&filter=alltypes&sort=lastpostdesc

     

     

     



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Monday, May 16, 2016 2:04 PM
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  • Yeah, I've had no problems this morning either.

    That doesn't mean that something strange isn't happening though, we all know how 'quirky' the forums can be...


    Monday, May 16, 2016 2:13 PM
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  • Looks like it may be Skype that is doing this to me.  Now I can't use Answers but there it seems to be looking for me to create yet another Profile for its account.  And then trying to Sign out and Login with either of my other accounts fails.  If they hadn't forced me to create multiple accounts in the first place I probably wouldn't have these problems.  Now they appear to be trying to combine things but botching it.


    Robert Aldwinckle
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    Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:26 PM
  • Yea I don't use the microsoft office logon that much. It may be the "keep me signed in" has got it jacked up. It may be if you clear history and cookies you can "undo" the "keep me signed in"

     

     

     



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:33 PM
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  • Today was worse and I finally had to reboot.  That would be the first one since the last update (for production W10).  Then that would be a new quirk related to its updates.  Previously the only unplanned restarts which I have found to be obligatory have been with the preview versions where that has been the only way to get sound into my Hyper-V VM.

    The troubleshooters are really useless and just plain irritating.   One thing that works and puts the lie to every other symptom is PowerShell's  Invoke-WebRequest.  If it can retrieve a whole page, why do both IE and Edge pretend that there is a connectivity issue and not give instead some useful diagnostics? 



    Robert Aldwinckle
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    Friday, May 20, 2016 12:17 AM
  • They did push a fix last night or early this AM for the authentication cookie issue, that could have impacted your issue as well.

     

     



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Friday, May 20, 2016 12:22 AM
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  • I'm still having to use my  TechNet = MSDN workaround.    This morning it started to look as if things were back to normal but these two threads (and this one) all needed that treatment.

    https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ffe77e1c-1c92-4ed2-bf3d-bc0cd0867b78/kb3156421-spinning-dots-after-installing-the-update-computer-either-hangs-or-uninstalls-the?forum=win10itprogeneral#7d2ba0e2-13cd-4c1b-8628-383432b04a5d

    https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/51af13da-61e0-4c84-a104-52bdebeacf6e/i-am-unable-to-reinstall-ie11-after-deleting-it?forum=ieitprocurrentver

    and again,  PS  Invoke-WebRequest  proves that there is no connectivity issue when using the TechNet host.

    This is what my nslookup gave me and ipconfig /displaydns confirmed that it would have been used

    PS>ipconfig /displaydns | clip
    PS>nslookup social.technet.microsoft.com
    Server:  UnKnown
    Address:  192.168.1.1
    
    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name:    lb.social.ms.akadns.net
    Address:  157.56.75.164
    Aliases:  social.technet.microsoft.com
    
    PS>

    From time to time I have to use a HOSTS file override for  answers.microsoft.com to work around related performance problems there.  However, in that case it is easy to know which data center an IP address goes to.  I have no idea what data centers are involved here or even yet have a collection of possible IP addresses to try to use.

    Heh.  Maybe there's an addressing loop?  Look at this tracert extract (out of Canada and until ICMP is assumed to be blocked by the next hop).

      6    60 ms    33 ms    34 ms  xe-3-3-0.chi12.ip4.gtt.net [141.136.105.33]
      7    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  microsoft-corporation-gw.ip4.gtt.net [199.229.231.130]
      8    43 ms    32 ms    35 ms  ae10-0.ch1-96c-2a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.40.15]
      9    81 ms    79 ms    80 ms  be-73-0.ibr02.ch1.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.8.40]
     10    79 ms   115 ms    78 ms  be-5-0.ibr01.dm2.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.76]
     11    82 ms    84 ms    87 ms  be-3-0.ibr01.dm3.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.74]
     12    80 ms    84 ms    81 ms  be-4-0.ibr02.den07.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.97]
     13    80 ms    80 ms    79 ms  be-1-0.ibr01.den07.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.58]
     14    82 ms    81 ms    80 ms  be-3-0.ibr01.cys01.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.112]
     15    80 ms    81 ms    87 ms  be-1-0.ibr02.cys01.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.98]
     16    80 ms    79 ms    79 ms  be-3-0.ibr01.co2.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.122]
     17    83 ms    78 ms    79 ms  ae71-0.co1-96c-1a.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.8.237]
     18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
     19     *        *        *

    So, it starts in Chicago, goes to Des Moines, then to Denver, then to Cys? (new to me), then bounces around "Co" (somewhere else in Colorado or Corporate, e.g. Redmond?)

    In contrast  social.msdn.microsoft.com  might even be here in Canada.  More direct in any case.

      9    19 ms    18 ms    18 ms  bx7-toronto63_HundredGigE0-6-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.51.15]
     10    18 ms    19 ms    18 ms  a184-84-185-14.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [184.84.185.14]
    
    Trace complete.
    PS>



    Robert Aldwinckle
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    In order to get this out I had to ultimately switch off power to all my comm gear.  I think the latest W10 update has broken my Networking (which does involve a vSwitch over Wi-Fi).  Maybe I should try switching to Ethernet.
    Friday, May 20, 2016 12:57 PM
  • Both of those resolve no problem for me with either TechNet or MSDN brands.

     

     

     



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Friday, May 20, 2016 1:21 PM
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  • I did the same trace from Austin and I get to social.msdn in 8 hops

      1     1 ms     1 ms     2 ms  Linksys00733.attlocal.net [192.168.49.1]
      2    55 ms     4 ms     4 ms  108-232-176-1.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [108.232.176.1]
      3     7 ms     5 ms     5 ms  71.149.77.78
      4     7 ms     6 ms     *     75.8.128.140
      5     9 ms     9 ms     6 ms  12.81.225.241
      6    14 ms    15 ms    15 ms  ggr3.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.17]
      7    12 ms    12 ms    11 ms  ae7.dal33.ip4.gtt.net [199.229.231.25]
      8    13 ms    12 ms    13 ms  a184-29-153-88.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [184.29.153.88]

    TechNet does the same dance for me at *.msn.net

      1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  Linksys00733.attlocal.net [192.168.49.1]
      2     5 ms     6 ms     4 ms  108-232-176-1.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [108.232.176.1]
      3    12 ms     6 ms     6 ms  71.149.77.78
      4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      5    10 ms    11 ms     9 ms  12.81.225.241
      6    12 ms    14 ms    14 ms  12.122.85.197
      7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      8    69 ms    67 ms    67 ms  be-61-0.ibr01.dfw05.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.8.124]
      9    67 ms    68 ms    67 ms  be-4-0.ibr02.dm2.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.11]
     10    67 ms    67 ms    68 ms  be-2-0.ibr01.dm3.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.84]
     11    66 ms    67 ms    68 ms  be-4-0.ibr02.den07.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.97]
     12    66 ms    66 ms    66 ms  be-1-0.ibr01.den07.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.58]
     13    66 ms    65 ms    66 ms  be-3-0.ibr01.cys01.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.112]
     14    68 ms    66 ms    66 ms  be-1-0.ibr02.cys01.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.98]
     15    65 ms    66 ms    66 ms  be-3-0.ibr01.co2.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.4.122]
     16    64 ms    65 ms    65 ms  ae71-0.co1-96c-1a.ntwk.msn.net [104.44.8.237]
     17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
     18     *        *        *     Request timed out.



    Regards, Dave Patrick ....
    Microsoft Certified Professional
    Microsoft MVP [Windows Server] Datacenter Management

    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees, and confers no rights.

    Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
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  • I get similar results from Chicago suburbs. I get social.msdn in 7 hops, and social.technet goes to ntwk.msn.net and times out after 16 hops.

    Richard Mueller - MVP Enterprise Mobility (Identity and Access)

    Friday, May 20, 2016 2:46 PM
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  • for me, I can open the forums but didn't see any post/thread updates beyond may 24, 2016. I have subscribed to feeds and from there I can individually open the posts but as soon as I go back to powershell forum, it just doesn't show anything beyond 24th may.


    cheers..uc

    Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:30 AM
  • for me, I can open the forums but didn't see any post/thread updates beyond may 24, 2016. I have subscribed to feeds and from there I can individually open the posts but as soon as I go back to powershell forum, it just doesn't show anything beyond 24th may.


    cheers..uc

    Yep, the forums have been having problems all week. See here for more detail:

    https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ebf9a96f-578b-4e72-9d8e-bf8c54e2bc1f/my-forums-threads-does-not-update?forum=reportabug


    EDIT: Actually, it seems like the issues have cleared up for now.

    EDIT2: Or not.. Now that I look closer, it seems like threads from yesterday and at least part of Tuesday aren't showing up in the thread list yet.

    Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:59 AM
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