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  • Hello,

    i would like to upgrade my MCITP Database Administrator 2008 Certification to MCSE: Data Platform.

    Its a bit unclear to me if i need to complete 70-457, 70-458 and 70-459 or just 70-459.

    Hope someone can clarify it.


    • Edited by Heiko_ Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:33 PM
    Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:33 PM

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  • Heiko,

    It's a good question that I've looked into recently too.

    I presume you've already read the MCSE: Data Platform webpage http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/mcse-sql-data-platform.aspx which states:

    You can upgrade these certifications to the MCSE: Data Platform certification.

    • MCITP: Database Developer 2008

    • MCITP: Database Administrator 2008

    Step

    Title

    Required exam

    Certification earned

    1

    Transition Your MCTS on SQL Server 2008 to MCSA: SQL Server 2012, Part 1

    MCSE: Data Platform

    2

    Transition Your MCTS on SQL Server 2008 to MCSA: SQL Server 2012, Part 2

    3

    Transition Your MCITP: Database Administrator 2008 or MCITP: Database Developer 2008 to MCSE: Data Platform

    It's all 3 exams I'm afraid, not just 1.

    It's 5 for those who aren't upgrading so it's a bit ambitious hoping you can cut 5 exams on the 2012 platform for new starters down into 1 for those upgrading  - but worth asking :-)

    You'll have to update your SQL 2008 skillset to SQL Server 2012 first, before moving on to the full MCSE.

    So it's an upgrade from MCITP: Database Administrator 2008 earned on SQL 2008 to MCSA: SQL Server 2012 with the two exams (457) and (458).  There's no shortcut there - you're already sitting 2 exams because you're upgrading rather than 3 for someone with no previous exams (461, 462, 463).

    Then another shortcut kicks in as to top-up your MCSA: SQL 2012 to the MCSE: Data platform in just the 1 exam (459), instead of 2 for the people who aren't upgrading from 2008 (464, 465).

    So with your MCITP (or even just a single MCTS) the upgrade is the 3 exams 457, 458 and 459. Which is a lot shorter than people just starting out who have to take 461, 462, 463, 464 and 465.

    I agree the webpage for exam 459 http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?ID=70-459 isn't as clear as it should be... saying just the exam "counts as credit towards MCSE".

    • Proposed as answer by Mr. Wharty Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:13 PM
    • Marked as answer by Heiko_ Friday, March 1, 2013 8:00 AM
    Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:16 PM

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  • Hi,

    With the transition exam 70-459 you should be able to upgrade by passing only this exam

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?id=70-459

    To upgrade MCTS SQL 2008 to MCSA SQL 2012 with exam 70-458 would not add anything as MCSE: Data Platorm is a more advanced certification then MCSA.



    Danny van Dam, Citrix CCIA/CCEE Microsoft MCSE Server Infrastructure/MCSE Desktop Infrastructure/MCSA Server 2008, Cisco CCNA, VMware VCP 3/4/5 http://www.citrix-guru.com http://www.rds-support.eu

    Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:57 PM
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  • Heiko,

    It's a good question that I've looked into recently too.

    I presume you've already read the MCSE: Data Platform webpage http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/mcse-sql-data-platform.aspx which states:

    You can upgrade these certifications to the MCSE: Data Platform certification.

    • MCITP: Database Developer 2008

    • MCITP: Database Administrator 2008

    Step

    Title

    Required exam

    Certification earned

    1

    Transition Your MCTS on SQL Server 2008 to MCSA: SQL Server 2012, Part 1

    MCSE: Data Platform

    2

    Transition Your MCTS on SQL Server 2008 to MCSA: SQL Server 2012, Part 2

    3

    Transition Your MCITP: Database Administrator 2008 or MCITP: Database Developer 2008 to MCSE: Data Platform

    It's all 3 exams I'm afraid, not just 1.

    It's 5 for those who aren't upgrading so it's a bit ambitious hoping you can cut 5 exams on the 2012 platform for new starters down into 1 for those upgrading  - but worth asking :-)

    You'll have to update your SQL 2008 skillset to SQL Server 2012 first, before moving on to the full MCSE.

    So it's an upgrade from MCITP: Database Administrator 2008 earned on SQL 2008 to MCSA: SQL Server 2012 with the two exams (457) and (458).  There's no shortcut there - you're already sitting 2 exams because you're upgrading rather than 3 for someone with no previous exams (461, 462, 463).

    Then another shortcut kicks in as to top-up your MCSA: SQL 2012 to the MCSE: Data platform in just the 1 exam (459), instead of 2 for the people who aren't upgrading from 2008 (464, 465).

    So with your MCITP (or even just a single MCTS) the upgrade is the 3 exams 457, 458 and 459. Which is a lot shorter than people just starting out who have to take 461, 462, 463, 464 and 465.

    I agree the webpage for exam 459 http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?ID=70-459 isn't as clear as it should be... saying just the exam "counts as credit towards MCSE".

    • Proposed as answer by Mr. Wharty Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:13 PM
    • Marked as answer by Heiko_ Friday, March 1, 2013 8:00 AM
    Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:16 PM
  • Thanks your your replies.

    Just found this nice infographic today:
    http://borntolearn.mslearn.net/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-components-userfiles/00-00-02-91-93-Attached%20Files/1565.msl_5F00_sql_5F00_certificationpaths_5F00_final.jpg

    Friday, March 1, 2013 8:00 AM
  • DataCruncher,

    If I have MCSA 2012 (461+462+463) and MCITP 2008, can I get MCSE with the 70-459 only? or should I take the 457+458+459 in order to get the MCSE 2012?

    Regards,

    Sharon


    Amir Shemesh

    Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:03 AM
  • Hi Shraonds.

    1) If you have no previous exams then the pathway to study SQL Server 2012 MCSE: Data Platform is:

    • 461 + 462 + 463 = MCSA (SQL Server 2012)
    •                                + 464 + 465 = MCSE: Data Platform

    2) If you have a single MCTS exam on SQL 2008, then you can upgrade to MCSE: Data Platform as:

    • 432 OR 433 OR 448 = any single MCTS (SQL Server 2008)
    •                                + 457 + 458 = MCSA (SQL Server 2012)
    •                                                      + 464 + 465 = MCSE: Data Platform

    3) If you have the MCITP: Database Administrator (SQL Server 2008) then you can take the shortened upgrade path:

    • 432 + 450 = MCITP: Database Administrator (SQL Server 2008)
    •                     + 457 + 458 = MCSA (SQL Server 2012)
    •                                              + 459 = MCSE: Data Platform

    4) If you have the MCITP: Database Developer (SQL Server 2008) then you can take the shortened upgrade path:

    • 433 + 451 = MCITP: Database Developer (SQL Server 2008)
    •                     + 457 + 458 = MCSA (SQL Server 2012)
    •                                              + 459 = MCSE: Data Platform

    If you have exams already then choose a pathway as appropriate to first get your MCSA ond top-up to become MCSE.

    If you don't have any exams at the moment and are interested in studying for the MCSA SQL 2008 and then later upgrading to MCSA 2012 and then MCSE afterwards - be aware that the following exams are retiring soon and the MCIPT certificates are being retired too:

    Retiring on July 31, 2013

    70-433: TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Database Development

    70-450: PRO: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Designing, Optimizing, and Maintaining a Database Administrative Solution

    70-451: PRO: Microsoft SQL Server 2008 Designing and Optimizing Database Solutions

    70-452: PRO: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Designing a Business Intelligence Solution

    5) Therefore, if you are new to the exams are want to study SQL Server 2008 (without worrying about having to pass before July 31, 2013) then take:

    • 432 + 448 = MCSA (SQL 2008)
    •                       + 457 + 458 = MCSA (SQL 2012)
    •                                               + 459 = MCSE: Data Platform

    Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:55 AM