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    I have been using OneCare for nearly two months and the virus and spyware scan function has never detected a threat. The message: "One Care has found no potentially harmful or unwanted software on your computer" appears everytime. I have the program set to scan for viruses and spyware and updates daily. My son and I do a lot of web surfing, including MySpace and Facebook and I find it hard to believe that there are never any threats detected.

     

    Am I fortunate? Is the OneCare firewall that effective?

    Sunday, December 7, 2008 6:57 PM

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  • Testing AntiVirus applications is the reason the EICAR antimalware testfile was created.

    Try downloading the harmless EICAR testfile to your Startup Folder:

     

    http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

     

    If OneCare (or any other installed AV) doesn't pick it up, then you've got a problem.

    Sunday, December 7, 2008 7:31 PM
  • Thanks for the reply Dave, I appreciate it. With all due respect I'm not inclined to download an unknown file from the European Expert Group for IT Security to my startup folder without some additional assurances. That seems a little reckless to me.

     

    I'm just baffled at the lack of any detected threats to my computer. Is the OneCare virus and spyware monitoring that effective? I did contact OneCare support with this question and I'm awaiting their response.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:01 PM
  • Oh, well throw caution to the wind and google EICAR.  Perhaps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eicar_test_file

    or better yet: http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsOneCare/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1853433&SiteID=2

    You'll be surprised at what Google can do to overcome unknowns, once you learn how to use it:

    Essentials of Google Search

     

    Monday, December 8, 2008 1:33 AM
  • Thanks for the pointers Dave. I am familiar with Google searches.

     

    I went to http://www.eicar.org/information/ , clicked on Anti-Malware Testfile and, nothing happened---no download, no dialogue box, no prompts, nothing. It is probably just as well, I followed the earlier thread you referenced in your last reply and it sounds like more drama than I want anyway.

     

    Given the fact that OneCare continues to show green/status good it seems reasonable to assume the product is doing what it claims to be doing.

    Monday, December 8, 2008 4:50 AM
  • ...undoubtedly, it is.  EICAR is really for the doubters among us... myself included.  OneCare, or for that matter Windows Defender alone, will pick up this testfile when copied down from the net and opened on your hard drive and when scanned.  Testing it gives that warm fuzzy feeling, it has revealed inoperative Windows Defender situations, and it can be worthwhile to know what a detection/quarantine looks like without having to actually go through a nasty one.

    Monday, December 8, 2008 5:17 AM
  • Prior to switching to OneCare I had been using Spyware Doctor and before that Spybot. I have learned that these programs identify benign cookies as spyware threats while OneCare ignores them. Hence on a typical Spyware Doctor scan I would find dozens of "threats". I had grown accustomed to that kind of feedback.

     

    I have set the privacy on IE at medium high and I routinely delete my browsing history using IE tools. Along with using OneCare and not runing ActiveX controls or clicking on suspicious popups, I don't know what more I can do.

     

    Thanks for the information and for your time.

    Monday, December 8, 2008 6:06 AM
  • I changed the thread to a comment thread, since there really is no answer to be expected.

    I'll just add that I've been running OneCare since the early beta, long ago. In the early days, a few threats made it onto the PC, but didn't do any damage other than insert themselves into the System Restore points so that every time the PC created a new restore point, OneCare would report an infection. Since those early days, I've been running it on quite a few PCs with no problems at all. It has been on my wife's PC for two years now and she regularly searches the web and clicks indiscriminately on links that could well lead to a compromised site. She has had no problems at all until this past week when she was hit with a Vundo variant that OneCare sadly missed. It took me 2 hours to remove. I was hit a few weeks earlier on one PC by a popup of the Antivirus Pro variety, and failed to follow my own advice to close all browser windows immediately and dump the cache. The PC wasn't infected with the full virus, but it managed to drop something into the registry that I had to remove manually to prevent the popup at boot or logon. OneCare missed both of these infections, so it isn't perfect, but you can be as safe with OneCare as with any of the other major a/v packages out there as long as you also practice safe Internet usage.

    -steve

    Monday, December 8, 2008 5:58 PM
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  • Hello,

    I am not sure if this is a user to user forum or only a moderator to user forum, in any event if this post is out of place I am sure it will b deleted.

    I have been very fortunate not to have had any type of malware in the 2 years I have had my computer.

    Although I am using One Care at the moment, I first used McAfee.  I also was concerned how fortunate I was that all of the scheduled and on demand scans showed nothing.   Although I am careful and follow the safety computing rules, most of the time, how could I be that lucky?

    I was so sure McAfee was missing something.  I know very little about computers, but I would search throughout all the programs, files and whatnots.  If anything looked suspicious, I would start a post in Dell's or McAfee's forum.  I have even submitted 3 Hijackthis scans and asked them to analyze it because I was sure I was infected with something.  Thankfully I never was, but I was/am truly a computer hyperchondriac!

    Antimalware specialists from both forums recommended other scans I should use, some on-line.  I also use WinParol a monitoring program.  Of course, all of this may be redundant, but it gives me peace of mind. 

    The test virus (I cannot see the name at the moment) which was suggested is well-known.  As you, I was afraid to download it also.  I called McAfee and complained all of the scans resulted in nothing; could they please check the software to ensure it was working properly.  The technician first told me of the test virus.  I was livid.  No way was he going to put a virus (which was the only word I heard at that moment) into my computer.  After calming down I took a leap of faith, "he break it, he fix it."

    The technician downloaded the test virus and  a pop up alerted me instantly of an infection.  (At that moment I was very, very happy it was a benign test virus.)  The technician informed me I could leave the program on my computer and use it from time to time, or delete it.  Of course I....

    My knowledge is very limited, therfore, I subscribe to several newsletters that I can comprehend:  Cnet News Security; Security Garden; the Blade; Bits From Bill, Microsoft Security, etc.; read through forums, especially their spyware and virus boards; and of course, I ask questions.

    There are a few very popular and free scans on the market.  May I suggest you inquire as to what other scans may be used with One Care.  Since I am new to this board, I hesitate to make suggestions.

    I hope I have been helpful by adding my 2 cents.

    Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:33 PM
  • Hi, Nissi1.

    It is a User to User forum, so your post is absolutely fine.

    With OneCare, you can run any online scanner you want. You can also download and install another scanner, but that scanner cannot have any real-time protection enabled as it will conflict. When using an online or installed scanner, you might want to disable the OneCare protection to prevent conflicts or performance issues and enable it again when completed.

    -steve

    Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:50 PM
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