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  • I'm not taking any stabs at Microsoft for such a blow thrown my way by this new WGA operation. I (along with many) have a legit COA from a brand new copy of Windows XP Pro and have failed the validation step "said" to be manditory by the Microsoft Corporation. I don't know too much about the law and haven't read much into the subject of WGA terms and what not, so for this reason I have a few things to ask... What if I don't take any action in the matter, and ignore all validation messages? What if this "Kill switch" is actualy true and Microsoft locks my PC down? Did Microsoft ever think of being trampled with lawsuits from unhappy Windows buyers?

     

    P.S. This is just a "what if", not a lash back to Microsoft. I beleave the customers of Windows deserve answers.

    Friday, June 30, 2006 12:56 AM

Answers

  • KeeFeR,

    XP EULA is the XP End User Licensing Agreement.

    Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:54 PM

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  • Please download and install: http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/3/3/533a40be-936b-4267-b043-2f04233a78a6/WindowsXP-KB905474-ENU-x86.exe

    Then re-boot Windows. Does this solve the issue?

    If not, then:

    Please follow this simple troubleshooting procedure:

    1. Download and install the MGA Diagnostic Tool: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

    2. After running the MGA Diagnostic Tool, click on the "Windows" tab and then click on "Copy to Clipboard".

    3. Next, visit the following website and create a post in the "WGA Validation Problems" forum and paste the results of the WGA Diagnostic Data in a detailed post. http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/default.aspx?SiteID=25

    4. A WGA troubleshooting specialist will analyze the data and recommend an appropriate solution.

    Friday, June 30, 2006 3:24 AM
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  • This doesn't answer anything I asked.
    Saturday, July 1, 2006 12:10 AM
  • You never asked a coherent question....
    Saturday, July 1, 2006 2:05 AM
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  • Sounded perfectly coherent to me. As no-one seems to understand let me repeat the relevent part of the post...

    "What if I don't take any action in the matter, and ignore all validation messages? What if this "Kill switch" is actualy true and Microsoft locks my PC down? Did Microsoft ever think of being trampled with lawsuits from unhappy Windows buyers?"

    The question is (in a simple coherent manner)

    Is the kill switch rumour true and what will MS do in restitution if they falsely deactivate a legitamite copy?
    Saturday, July 1, 2006 4:07 AM
  • Glowworm62,

    Kill switch=untrue.

    Although personally I love the idea of being able to disable nongenuine copies of MS software.

    Saturday, July 1, 2006 4:49 PM
  • glowworm62,

    MS has now stated through its public relations firm that WGA does not have an XP kill switch and there are no plans to ever include one.  Google News - search on "WGA lawsuit".

    AFAIK, there is nothing in the XP EULA that requires MS to provide online updates to licensed users.  If thats the case, in order to obtain XP updates directly from microsoft.com, you must go through what ever hoops MS designates, and MS is free to change the update rules as it sees fit.  Arguably, even if the XP EULA required MS to provide online updates to licensed users,  MS has the right to determine whether a user is properly licensed in what ever way would be considered reasonable.

    Everybody has their own opinion regarding WGA.  I personally believe that WGA is, in general, a good thing but the way it was implemented in the last pre-release version of WGA was a HUGE public relations blunder, and in the long term will cost MS.

    -Roger
    Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:05 PM
  • Thank you Dan and Roger for answering the few small things I had to know, Even if Glow and I had to pull teeth to get answers, You guys still came around. I guess it comes to say, you really do get what you hay for, HA! Anyway, exactly what is the "XP EULA"?
    Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:43 PM
  • KeeFeR,

    XP EULA is the XP End User Licensing Agreement.

    Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:54 PM
  • Wow, Well I guess I sound quite stupid asking such a thing, But then again... Not everyone understands abreviations.
    Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:58 PM
  • This kill switch is true!

    Don't be mislead by these so-called angels of mercy from Microsoft.

    I bought near 18 of Windows XP software and I can prove it.

    Each time, I did testing on my Computer, with Store bought, it terminated everyone, for changing parts. It wrote been used to many times, buy some more.

    As I was testing different parts, I left a Hard Drive in storage over 30 days, I tried to use it, I was forced to activate it on the spot, no way could I do that, because I never installed the drivers to get on the internet to activate yet, it shut me down, I had to erase everything and start over.

    I hope there is a class action lawsuit over this, watch they will ban me for writing all of this, they think there angel of mercy or saints. The road to Microsoft is praved with gold. Hey, don't spoil my my good name, I'm Microsoft.

    There can be pranksters at Microsoft, or unintended software problems, malfuctions, not everone is a prankster from microsoft, I think someone was hurt by them or someone playing is possible too, yet they invite me to Beta programs only after they stop doing it, they get me all worked-up, to find its ended, and several more things. Windows Update site, malfunctions on me, sure anyone can cause problems and not work from Microsoft, I alway thought Microsoft was a saint, not anymore.

    Sunday, July 2, 2006 12:16 AM
  • First, thanks for saying the kill-switch rumour is false.

    Each time, I did testing on my Computer, with Store bought, it terminated everyone, for changing parts.


    No, this would be the product activation that has always been in XP kicking in not WGA Notifications.

    As I understand it XP has always tracked 6 (I think) items in your PC for change. Changes of a certain pattern have always meant the activation has to be done again.

    That is very much fair in my eyes - Technicians who change BIOS, NIC and HDD often in a single system are aware of the protections and are generally willing to live with the issue - or legally obtain a less restrictive license or use a PE disk.

    What is new, with this clearly stated "false" kill-switch rumour, is that it was claimed that in October MS would deactivate anyone who didn't accept the WGA-Notifications program.

    As it's now clearly stated as false I feel quite comfortable now in turning off AU and manually updating/rejecting the EULA for notifications forever.
    Sunday, July 2, 2006 11:59 AM
  • I will write this in greater detail.

    I'm not sure what your question is and how to answer it.

    If I use Factory Image, I can change parts and no problems.

    If I change parts with Retail Version it fails activation, I never will buy a Retail Version of Microsoft again.

    Because it will terminate my Software after 30 days and be a pest often until 30 days are up, then terminate the Software.

    Why waste the money on Microsoft Software that terminates the Software when we replace parts. Why buy more to replace the Software.

    Queston is: Are you thinking, that they will prevent you, if you deny downloading WGA, they did write, it will be not by choice later, expected .

     

    Sunday, July 2, 2006 2:35 PM