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Reporting annoying issues for the entire Microsoft website (MSDN, forums, all)

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Is there any place where I can report bugs with how the Microsoft web sites behave? I can only find forums and "Microsoft Answers" categories about single products that Microsoft makes, but nothing about the infrastructure itself.
For about two weeks now, I am required to log into my account every few hours whenever I access any Microsoft website. This includes MSDN help content, forums, or other resources. I need to login after opening the website through F1 help in Visual Studio as well as accessing a microsoft.com link from anywhere else like a web search or a direct link from web or an application.
Auto-complete does not work either. My browser (Firefox) does save the password, but it never fills it into the form. Other people have already noticed that Microsoft applies some dirty tricks here. And even if the login is remembers for a moment, it's slow as hell. It takes a second or two to load the login.live.com page (which is not what I wanted to see), then it sits there for some more seconds before going anywhere. Other login services like Google or StackOverflow manage to log me in all within one second and most of the time I don't even see it.
And then there's still that insecure SSL-to-non-SSL-submit warning that only occurs in other browsers then IE. Has anybody cared about that in the last couple years?! I'm not getting it now, probably because I'm not logged in anymore. It all slowly falls apart, piece by piece. Next step is probably losing my data or not loading it at all.
THIS – IS – ANNOYING! And it really makes me feel like I don't want to use Microsoft products anymore (because even good desktop applications are connected to that silly website). I have opened a Microsoft Connect ticket for a part of this issue (it's grown bigger since then), but this ticket is totally ignored. If microsoft.com went down, they'd certainly care within minutes or hours. This bug is not even regarded in weeks!
So do I have to write a postal letter to the president of the whole company or do they have support staff for that?! Do they have anybody who is capable of maintaining their website? It's really frustrating how Microsoft has a web presence that is worse than what our first-year trainees come up with. It's full of bugs and this is currently only the most relevant one. Do they even care about how the world sees them? Or is Microsoft currently preparing (and even failing) to move out of business?
- Moved by Dave PatrickMVP Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:49 AM
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Hi,
This has been happening for a while and several teams are aware. See the posts in these threads:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/57121270-bdbf-4d56-a2f7-c31ee214ea27/forum-redirected-to-sign-in-page-problem?forum=reportabug
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- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:08 AM
- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Monday, March 9, 2015 7:25 AM
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There's a team working on this log-in issue now. It's their primary focus.
Thanks!
Ed Price, Azure & Power BI Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)
Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:10 AM
- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Monday, March 9, 2015 7:25 AM
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Hi,
This has been happening for a while and several teams are aware. See the posts in these threads:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/57121270-bdbf-4d56-a2f7-c31ee214ea27/forum-redirected-to-sign-in-page-problem?forum=reportabug
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- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:08 AM
- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Monday, March 9, 2015 7:25 AM
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Oh great, so it may be fixed next year already, I guess. Very nice. I'll go sleep until then.
PS: I entered my posting on a current Microsoft website. Clicking on the link in the e-mail notification, I landed on another site (still *.microsoft.com) that has a broken header with badly aligned content and the old Microsoft logo in that Windows 95 skyblue. Isn't it nice? This forum is hosted in the Microsoft museum! Just one more bug on the list. It happens every now and then that I see pages that should have been taken out of service years ago. If they're not able to properly run a website, they should shut it down.
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The brandings are fun. Here's this same thread in a bunch of flavors:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/exchange/en-US/cf19ed78-267b-4313-9c49-bd3027f0eb8e/reporting-annoying-issues-for-the-entire-microsoft-website-msdn-forums-all?forum=whatforum
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How should anybody feel comfortable in this mess?
Now there's a great question.
It took me a very long time after the 6/2013 redesign to get comfortable with the layout. I feel terrible for new people who need an answer to some burning question and end up getting lost in the swamp (and then they find that they can't post screenshots because of the manual verification process, but that's a whole separate issue....). I sit in a mostly dead forum (TechNet Website Feedback) simply because people post there by mistake and it's not heavily moderated any longer.
I think the conclusion I've come to is that there's no good answer to that question.
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Just a note on those brandings... I noticed a different appearance of the VS 2013 F1 help now and tried removing the "vstudio/" part from the library URL. The purple Visual Studio header changed into the black MSDN header, the content was the same.
That must be what the "One Microsoft" strategy is all about. Or was is about more diversity? Hm.
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There's a team working on this log-in issue now. It's their primary focus.
Thanks!
Ed Price, Azure & Power BI Customer Program Manager (Blog, Small Basic, Wiki Ninjas, Wiki)
Answer an interesting question? Create a wiki article about it!- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:10 AM
- Marked as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Monday, March 9, 2015 7:25 AM
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That's great, thanks for the update Ed.
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Here is yet another branding of this thread :)
Regards, Hans Vogelaar (http://www.eileenslounge.com)
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Here is yet another branding of this thread :)
Regards, Hans Vogelaar (http://www.eileenslounge.com)
I'll see your Office and raise with a ForeFront:
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Not fixed thoroughly, or broken again.
I still have to log in by typing my password every day for the MSDN Magazine website. How highly sensitive is that information?!
Still my impression is that Microsoft is unable to do it right on the web. It's better than 10 years ago (or at least nicer) but still a large gap to other leading companies.
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I'd report this using the Site Feedback link at the bottom of the MSDN Magazine page:
I saw the same behavior as before. The page asked for my password, but closing the tab and relaunching it from my search results worked the second time.
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It just doesn't help. Microsoft is not getting this fixed. Just got it again for a Technet Magazine page. They just suck. There's no other explanation for all these bugs.
I'd vote for a complete deletion of all Microsoft web pages, give them 2 years to redo it, and see if that helps. Maybe Microsoft should assign their own website to an external web company how have the required skills to do that.