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When will MSDN site become less useless again? RRS feed

  • Question

  • Half the links come back with 500 errors while the other half give back 404s. Has MS never heard of a redirect? Is there some major revamp going on behind the scenes that is just making the site useless or is this just basic poor maintenance? 
    Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:09 PM

Answers

  • Ed, not sure what errors & redirect issues you are referring to but FWIW last year I reported details of 100s of missing links on MSDN (would guess 1000s along similar lines). None of these appear to have been fixed, should I report them again?

    As a gentle nudge perhaps I might add it's 18 months since impacted users have not been able to sign in and post to MSDN forums via the web interface!

    Peter Thornton
    (posted via the Bridge)

    This particular round of 2008 issues is fixed. Regarding your issues. Please post again on your thread or start a new one.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:37 AM
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  • Can you post some examples?  There is a known issue with relative links from the old site and we are working on addressing this.  I want to know if you are seeing some other issue.
    Ram T - Forums Dev
    Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:14 AM
  • The link errors and redirect issues have been fixed. Let us know if this problem continues.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Friday, February 17, 2012 1:21 AM
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  • Ed, considering this thread was originally posted 3 years, 6 months ago, I think it's safe to just mark it closed now, without asking.

    Will do. Thanks Bill. And thanks for finally deciding to create an account, after all these years!

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)



    Friday, February 17, 2012 8:06 PM
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  • Ed, considering this thread was originally posted 3 years, 6 months ago, I think it's safe to just mark it closed now, without asking.


    Will do. Thanks Bill. And thanks for finally deciding to creat an account, after all these years!

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)



    just a reminder: thread is still open ;-)

    Al Dunbar

    Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:09 PM
  • Ed, not sure what errors & redirect issues you are referring to but FWIW last year I reported details of 100s of missing links on MSDN (would guess 1000s along similar lines). None of these appear to have been fixed, should I report them again?

    As a gentle nudge perhaps I might add it's 18 months since impacted users have not been able to sign in and post to MSDN forums via the web interface!

    Peter Thornton
    (posted via the Bridge)

    Monday, February 27, 2012 2:51 PM
  • Go ahead and re-post all broken links. You may also re-state your problem with inability to login.

    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


    My blog

    Monday, February 27, 2012 2:59 PM
    Moderator
  • Go ahead and re-post all broken links

    I haven't posted details in this group before though I have reported in various ways elsewhere, including feedback. Here are some examples -

    scroll down the A's here
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa297449(v=office.11).aspx
    then look at the B's

    scroll down this page
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa213696(v=office.11).aspx

    Not broken but missing links, there's a difference albeit in effect the same

    You may also re-state your problem with inability to login.

    Rather than re-state can I refer to the last time I asked about the status

    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/thread/5a618108-bb93-433f-9e87-ebde890fac64#5a618108-bb93-433f-9e87-ebde890fac64

    In this thread Arun responded saying one of the scenarios was likely due to having an MS site listed in a trusted zone. I can only repeat I do not have anything in a trusted zone, or anything listed in any zone. So that does not explain the cause for me or enable a workaround.

    Arun also suggested a cause for one of the other scenarios of not being able to sign in might be due to some malware. Obviously I can't 100% sure but I do not believe I have anything like that.

    Peter Thornton

    Monday, February 27, 2012 3:46 PM
  • B doesn't show anything for me - could it be that there is no single property starting on B?

    Interestingly, when I try 'D' Google Chrome detects this page to be in Indonesian and offers a translation.


    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


    My blog

    Monday, February 27, 2012 4:03 PM
    Moderator
  • B doesn't show anything for me - could it be that there is no single property starting on B?

    You must be using Classic view?   In LIghtweight view by comparing the number above versus the number below I thought that there might be one missing but I counted and compared them both and then couldn't find one, so perhaps just a difference in CSS.   The A column may be worse--more difference between above and below but a much bigger list.   And I have no idea how one should go about trying to check on the second page in Peter's claim.   Some kind of  XSLT  solution I suspect.


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    Monday, February 27, 2012 4:21 PM
  • I'm not sure what exactly you're talking about. All I did is to copy the first link into Google Chrome tab window (as it was not an autolink). For A there were many entries, but none for B. I then looked for a few more letters and there were entries there as well. 

    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


    My blog

    Monday, February 27, 2012 4:46 PM
    Moderator
  • B doesn't show anything for me - could it be that there is no single property starting on B?

    Try this for the Bs
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa297450(v=office.11).aspx

    That gives me a list of 31 properties from "BackColor Property" to "BuiltinDocumentProperties", all with missing links.

    Interestingly, when I try 'D' Google Chrome detects this page to be in Indonesian and offers a translation.

    The D page appears normal for me though all the Ds do appear to have valid links.

    C & E some OK, some missing
    F, G, H, I, K, L all missing

    A few 100 missing links in that lot, and that's only in this tree -

    MSDN Library
    Office Development
    Microsoft Office 2003
    Office 2003
    VBA Language Reference
    Microsoft Excel
    Visual Basic Reference
    Reference
    Properties

    Peter Thornton

    Monday, February 27, 2012 5:36 PM
  • In Google Chrome pasting that link to the browser still gave me an empty page. In IE 9 I see properties for B and C, but none of the links are clickable.

    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


    My blog

    Monday, February 27, 2012 6:22 PM
    Moderator
  • Ed, not sure what errors & redirect issues you are referring to but FWIW last year I reported details of 100s of missing links on MSDN (would guess 1000s along similar lines). None of these appear to have been fixed, should I report them again?

    As a gentle nudge perhaps I might add it's 18 months since impacted users have not been able to sign in and post to MSDN forums via the web interface!

    Peter Thornton
    (posted via the Bridge)

    This particular round of 2008 issues is fixed. Regarding your issues. Please post again on your thread or start a new one.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:37 AM
    Owner
  • Ed,

    Ed, not sure what errors & redirect issues you are referring to but FWIW last year I reported details of 100s of missing links on MSDN (would guess 1000s along similar lines). None of these appear to have been fixed, should I report them again?

    As a gentle nudge perhaps I might add it's 18 months since impacted users have not been able to sign in and post to MSDN forums via the web interface!

    Peter Thornton
    (posted via the Bridge)

    This particular round of 2008 issues is fixed. Regarding your issues. Please post again on your thread or start a new one.

    Not sure what you mean by "2008 issues" or if the issues I referred to relate to 2008 issues, they may well date that far back.

    Where is the best place to start a new thread, surely not again in this forum?

    Peter Thornton

    Monday, March 19, 2012 6:04 PM
  • Ed,

    Ed, not sure what errors & redirect issues you are referring to but FWIW last year I reported details of 100s of missing links on MSDN (would guess 1000s along similar lines). None of these appear to have been fixed, should I report them again?

    As a gentle nudge perhaps I might add it's 18 months since impacted users have not been able to sign in and post to MSDN forums via the web interface!

    Peter Thornton
    (posted via the Bridge)

    This particular round of 2008 issues is fixed. Regarding your issues. Please post again on your thread or start a new one.

    Not sure what you mean by "2008 issues" or if the issues I referred to relate to 2008 issues, they may well date that far back.

    Where is the best place to start a new thread, surely not again in this forum?

    Peter Thornton


    We're just piggybacking issues on apdicaprio's thread. Those issues existed. They are now fixed.

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:06 AM
    Owner