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    I am in the situation where my laptop died (mother board went out) and I now want to restore the image on a new laptop.  My old computer was an HP Pavilion dv2000 series notebook with an AMD Processors and the new computer, which is the repacement provided by HP, is an HP Pavilion dv2800 series notebook.  Is there anyway to restore from the WHS to an entirely new computer.  I've gone through the process of restoring from my Windows Home Server and have gotten the notice that the restore was successful.  However, after that point the laptop won't boot up.  It blue screens after the "Windows" screen and I get an error that says I need to due to the addition of new hardware or software, I need to do a repair install.  The problem is, as we all know, HP didn't give me the Windows Vista disk. 

     

    In researching this problem, I saw a thread where it said that the WHS computer restore feature does not do "bare-metal" restores.  Is this really the case?  It would be pretty lame if you could only use the computer restore function for hard drive failures. 

     

     

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:10 PM

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    It does bare metal restores to the same hardware with the same drivers.  You now are trying to restore an image of a backup to new hardware and your drivers are mismatched. 

     

    Without a disk for Windows Vista....sometimes the best thing to do with a new laptop is simply install the Connector software on the new laptop and then use the Open Backup feature from the Windows Home Server Console to copy the files from a backup of the old laptop. 

     

    You will have to re-install the apps from the orginal disks.  To make software installation easier, I have copied most of the programs that I use across multiple PCs to the Software Shared Folder on my home server, so that I can install over my home network rather than hunting around for CDs of the software programs.

     

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:22 PM

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    It does bare metal restores to the same hardware with the same drivers.  You now are trying to restore an image of a backup to new hardware and your drivers are mismatched. 

     

    Without a disk for Windows Vista....sometimes the best thing to do with a new laptop is simply install the Connector software on the new laptop and then use the Open Backup feature from the Windows Home Server Console to copy the files from a backup of the old laptop. 

     

    You will have to re-install the apps from the orginal disks.  To make software installation easier, I have copied most of the programs that I use across multiple PCs to the Software Shared Folder on my home server, so that I can install over my home network rather than hunting around for CDs of the software programs.

     

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:22 PM
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    Thank you for the quick response, though I'm a little disappointed.  How often when a computer dies are you able to find a new computer with the same hardware and the same drivers (my old laptop isn't even made anymore)?   It appears that the only usefulness of the computer restore program is if you are upgrading a HD.  Hopefully Microsoft will figure out that the real need with the computer restore program is the situation that I'm in - where the computer dies and you are forced to by an entirely new computer.  

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:33 PM
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    My experience is that, for every occasion where I've had a computer die for non-HD related reasons, I've had several (it feels like 2 to 4) failed hard drives. If a computer gets more than about 3 years old, I'm probably going to replace it because it's old and (by modern standards) slow. Which is where my wife's computer is today; it's due sometime next year...

     

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 4:57 PM
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    I cannot imagine just how much would be required, to allow a backup from one type of computer to be restored to a completely different hardware computer.

    Plus, if it could ever be programatically worked out, it would be a gift to the 'hackers' of this world!

     

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    Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:12 PM
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    It's very do-able, Colin. For a special case look at VMWare Converter, which can suck a physical disk image into a virtual machine with no problems.

     

    However, in the context of Windows Home Server, it's a daunting task. Unlike VMWare, which only needs to replace a consistent set of drivers, WHS would have to figure out, and install on the fly, all the drivers required during the restoration. And the user would have to be able to supply those drivers at appropriate times (both physically/hardware capable and knowledgeable enough to figure out how for random hardware).

     

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:38 PM
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    Yes it is very do-able...but there is a need to use a 3rd party software disk to reset the drivers adn causes XP to redetect the new hardware on the new/diffierent notebook.

     

    You perform the bare-metal restore with Microsoft Windows Home Server recovery CD.

    Then do not reboot....it will only blue scree.

     

    Get a trial version of StorageCraft ShadowProtect.

     

    Put in the ShadowProtect CD ...select hardware independent restore option..then follow the defaults.

     

    This will get your notebook up and running with new drivers.

    You will have re-active your notebook.   Put in the new XP key PID number that came with the new notebook.

    Active the XP .

     

    Go and install any new drivers not listed within Device Manager from the manufacturers CD.

     

    Cheers

     

    Out_theBack

    Friday, July 4, 2008 5:12 AM
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     Johnbade-outback wrote:

    Yes it is very do-able...but there is a need to use a 3rd party software disk to reset the drivers adn causes XP to redetect the new hardware on the new/diffierent notebook.

     

    You perform the bare-metal restore with Microsoft Windows Home Server recovery CD.

    Then do not reboot....it will only blue scree.

     

    Get a trial version of StorageCraft ShadowProtect.

     

    Put in the ShadowProtect CD ...select hardware independent restore option..then follow the defaults.

     

    This will get your notebook up and running with new drivers.

    You will have re-active your notebook.   Put in the new XP key PID number that came with the new notebook.

    Active the XP .

     

    Go and install any new drivers not listed within Device Manager from the manufacturers CD.

     

    Cheers

     

    Out_theBack

     

    Booting from the XP CD and selecting a Repair Installation should do the trick as well (at least enough to replace the HAL and get you to the desktop to install whatever other drivers may be missing).

    Friday, July 4, 2008 1:17 PM
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    John, how extensively have you tested that scenario? Have you done it once? Five times? Fifty times? I haven't used StorageCraft ShadowProtect...
    Friday, July 4, 2008 1:22 PM
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    I'm interested in this program also.  Any more information about it?
    Saturday, July 5, 2008 1:18 AM
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    We have used that technique more than 10 times.esp notebooks.

     

    We will image any system to a new system's disk. Sometimes we ghost the image over the new system's disk...then boot from ShadowProtect CD (we have the IT technician's edition.."StorageCraft ShadowProtect IT Edition 3 provides complete bare metal recovery" ) and then select the button to HIR ...and then reboot....or pop in the manufacturers drivers from a USB key...or floppy.

     

    http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2008/02/sbs-shadowprotect-some-hardware.html  this is specifically for Windows SBS 2003 and we have used it for recovery and demos. There are specific steps for SBS and reactivation is necessary and the licences will need restoring.

    HIR = hardware independent restore

     

    Cheers

     

    Out_theBack

    Saturday, July 5, 2008 8:13 AM
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    We have used that technique more than 10 times.esp notebooks.

     

    We will image any system to a new system's disk. Sometimes we ghost the image over the new system's disk...then boot from ShadowProtect CD (we have the IT technician's edition.."StorageCraft ShadowProtect IT Edition 3 provides complete bare metal recovery" ) and then select the button to HIR ...and then reboot....or pop in the manufacturers drivers from a USB key...or floppy.

     

    http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2008/02/sbs-shadowprotect-some-hardware.html  this is specifically for Windows SBS 2003 and we have used it for recovery and demos. There are specific steps for SBS and reactivation is necessary and the licences will need restoring.

    HIR = hardware independent restore

     

    Cheers

     

    Out_theBack


    Perhaps the IT Edition has fewer limitations than what is available to the general public, but your scenario, as you have described it, does not work. What happens is that an error pops up with an Error 0x00000001 Incorrect Function. Further, when you clear that error, it tells you that the target is not a supported Windows volume.

    What is really happening, in a cryptic sort of way, is that ShadowProtect is telling you that you do not have ShadowProtect installed in the Windows OS that you are trying to do an HIR on, and therefore it ain't gonna fly.

    Here's the offical StorageCraft forum thread on this topic: http://forum.storagecraft.com/Community/forums/p/1083/4874.aspx

    So here are my questions for ya:
    1. Have you done this on a target OS that did NOT already have ShadowProtect installed on it?
    2. Have you done this with the trial version, and NOT the IT Edition?

    StorageCraft ShadowProtect is a great product, and it has many useful features - but I believe that HIR to a machine after the fact using a trial download ain't one of them.
    Monday, July 6, 2009 4:19 AM
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    There is a program call Acronis True Image 2010 which will allow you to image any system to new hardware in about 1 hour or less depending on your hardware and specifications. I have been using there software for Goverment system and it has never failed it has been tried and proven several times over. I have about 8 pc to enclude a home server an a 2008 server and restoring and image is as simple as I've ever seen. The home verson is fairly cheap for a all in one solutions for backup a system and restoring to any new system. All of my pc have the same image with the acception of specific program for me or my wife and kids games.

    www.acronis.com

    Saturday, May 1, 2010 1:00 PM