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    I don't see anything in the current threads about why Microsoft is limiting Vail to 64-Bit Machines.  I have several older machines I could use, but what does the new version do that requires a 64-bit processor?  Servers basically serve, backup, and connect.  None of these things are process intensive.  Just curious.

     

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    G H

    Sunday, February 6, 2011 1:00 AM

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    On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:00:06 +0000, GreyH wrote:

    I don't see anything in the current threads about why Microsoft is limiting Vail to 64-Bit Machines.? I have several older machines I could use, but what does the new version do that requires a 64-bit processor?? Servers basically serve, backup, and connect.? None of these things are process intensive.? Just curious.

    The underlying code base for WHS 2011 is Windows Server 2008 R2 which is
    only available for x64 (and IA64) platforms.

    WHS 2011, like WHS V1 is primarily designed for OEM appliances which these
    days will all be x64 and not for hobbyists who may have old x86 systems
    laying around.

    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    Breakthrough:  It finally booted on the first try.

    • Proposed as answer by Qlaras Sunday, February 6, 2011 2:48 PM
    • Marked as answer by Jonas Svensson -FST- Sunday, February 6, 2011 6:41 PM
    Sunday, February 6, 2011 6:52 AM

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    >I don't see anything in the current threads about why Microsoft is limiting Vail to 64-Bit Machines.  I have several older >machines I could use, but what does the new version do that requires a 64-bit processor? Servers basically serve, backup, and >connect.  None of these things are process intensive.  Just curious.
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    Microsoft told us some time back that the next version of WHS (Vail) would be 64 bit only. Windows 7 was the last Microsoft OS that will have a 32 bit version. Everything from here on out will be 64 bit.

    Nancy Ward
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    My Grand Kids May be in Your Path

    Nancy Ward
    Sunday, February 6, 2011 2:49 AM
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    On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:00:06 +0000, GreyH wrote:

    I don't see anything in the current threads about why Microsoft is limiting Vail to 64-Bit Machines.? I have several older machines I could use, but what does the new version do that requires a 64-bit processor?? Servers basically serve, backup, and connect.? None of these things are process intensive.? Just curious.

    The underlying code base for WHS 2011 is Windows Server 2008 R2 which is
    only available for x64 (and IA64) platforms.

    WHS 2011, like WHS V1 is primarily designed for OEM appliances which these
    days will all be x64 and not for hobbyists who may have old x86 systems
    laying around.

    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    Breakthrough:  It finally booted on the first try.

    • Proposed as answer by Qlaras Sunday, February 6, 2011 2:48 PM
    • Marked as answer by Jonas Svensson -FST- Sunday, February 6, 2011 6:41 PM
    Sunday, February 6, 2011 6:52 AM
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    I am hardly a hobbyist.  I have been in the industry for 28 years and self-employed IT Consultant for 18.  You use the term "OEM appliances" like it has a specific meaning indicating two things:  you trash the language like most people in the IT business; and you don't really know what you are talking about.

    There are a dozen good uses for home servers, and less than half of them are processor intensive.  Using an older PC with lots of storage for a server makes perfect sense unless you are streaming video out of it.

     

    Monday, February 7, 2011 2:32 PM
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    On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:32:28 +0000, GreyH wrote:

    I am hardly a hobbyist.? I have been in the industry for 28 years and self-employed IT Consultant for 18.? You use the term "OEM appliances" like it has a specific meaning indicating two things:? you trash the language like most people in the IT business; and you don't really know what you are talking about.

    Hobbyist in this context was not meant as an insult. If you took it that
    way, that's your problem, not mine. As far as OEM appliance goes, that's
    exactly the market Microsoft is shooting for, you buy a pre-configured WHS
    box supplied by a vendor like Acer so yes, it does have a specific meeting.
    You can insult me all you like, and tout your vast industry experience all
    you like as well, I'm not going to play this game with you. FWIW however, I
    have more experience in the industry than you have and I've been
    self-employed for longer. Which really means nothing in this context.

    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    Software:  Typically silk nighties, nylons, garter belts.  Contrast with
    hardware.

    Monday, February 7, 2011 2:52 PM
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    On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:32:28 +0000, GreyH wrote:

    you don't really know what you are talking about

    Of course the main reason that WHS 2011 is limited to x64 which you
    conveniently skipped over in your attempts to insult me is that ever since
    Windows 2008 R2 was released, all Microsoft server operating systems (and
    the vast majority of their server based applications) are only available on
    x64. Since WHS 2011 needs to be based on a Server OS platform, there is no
    way, short of basing it on an older OS that it could be made available for
    x86.

    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca
    SCCS, the source motel!  Programs check in and never check out!  -- Ken
    Thompson

    Monday, February 7, 2011 5:25 PM