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Exam 70-536: Question Format & Practice Test Perception RRS feed

  • Question

  •  Hi,

     

    I am preparing for Exam 70-536 primarily using the MS Self Paced Book, and I have two questions in this regard.

     

    1. In the practice test provided along with the MS Self Paced Book, there are some questions that provide a two lists. We need to move items from second list to the first list and arrange them in the correct order.

     

    For those of you who have taken the actual exam: Do these questions come on the actual exam?.

     

    I am especially concerned about such questions that have descriptions of code i.e. instead of looking at code, they have text explanations of it. I find these sentences or sentence fragments ambiguous at times – and this is by far the question that I mostly get wrong (because both the set of items and the correct order is necessary to get it correct.)

     

    I'd be grateful if someone can remember if such text explanation of code questions in the two list format came in their exam. If possible please let me know how many you saw.

     

    I would like to mention that I generally don’t have problem with such questions if they are non-code related. For example one question from the practice tests I recall that asked you to chose and arrange the order in which security policies are applied (Enterprise, Machine, User, App Domain). I am fine with these.

     

     

    2. I have been reading blogs/forums of other people's preparation for this exam. They frequently make statements similar to the following:

     

    “ I was passing the measureup certification mode pre tests with 90%.” OR

    “I was also registered for Measure Up practice exams and passed those set of exams consistently with 90%.”

     

    In the statements above, I understand these guys are mentioning the score that they got on Practice Tests provided by certain vendors. I would like to know if it is their first attempt on the Practice Test that they got this score, or is it subsequent attempts.

     

    Your first attempt is usually your worst score. From what I hear, you usually use the results of your first test to identify the areas that you are weak in and study. I also usually go through my correct answers and make sure I understand the purpose of each of the other alternatives even if they are wrong.

     

    My question here is that when you take the test again or probably after your 10<sup>th</sup> attempt – I am sure you would get each and every question correct. Each of these sources that offer practice tests have a limited number of questions that they can choose from.

     

    So, to reiterate, I am hoping someone who has done a lot of these certifications can comment on whether the above statements mean these people got the 90% score in their first attempts or in subsequent attempts.

    Thanks a lot for your help.

    O.O.

    Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:34 PM

Answers

  • Hi,

    First of people are not allowed to talk about exam questions (this is what you agree to when you check the box before taking the exam) so no answer from me on that one. By training with the measure up test you will get as close to a simulation as one might wish. Types of questions are always explained before the exam starts. What's really important to know is why one would ask such questions. When rearranging lists there is always a logic behind it just as there is with multiple choice questions. There's always the logic why an answer is right ot wrong. I always tell my student to see the logic. By preparing and hands on one is able to use logice to tackle questions.

    For the percentage of measure up tests i have to say that i always started with a first score of 35% or 40%. After that is practice and practice again, take the test again and read the explanation for the answers. By repeating this process you will see the logic and you'l notice that it isn't really memorizing questions but you can actually explain why that answer should be right. Sure there will be enough people who score 90 on there first test but not everyone does and one should not be ashamed if one doesn't, i know i'm not ;-)

    Good luck on taking the exam

    Maurice 

    • Marked as answer by o-o-o-o Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
    Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:22 PM
  • Hmm. I wouldn't do it that way. I used the Practice Tests of MeasureUp to test my knowledge and my target was always to answer all questions correctly!

    So what did I do:

    - Training mode only.

    - I go through the question and then I tell for each anser why it is correct or wrong.

    - Then I check if the answer and my understanding is correct. If not I read about the details and learn about the stuff much more.

    That way I had no problem with any exam I did so far.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    EDIT: And yes, the NDA forbids us to talk about the eam. But if you check MeasureUp and SelfTestSftware: They are gold certified partner for these tests so I think it is ok to assume that their products should be exactly in a way how the exam is.

    • Marked as answer by o-o-o-o Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:52 AM
    Answerer
  • Hi

    Everyone will tell you that yuo should score 90% but that should not be your goal. As Konrad states it's better to take the tests and review the answers. Try to explain why that's the correct answer. The 90% is just a safety margin so when yo score a little less it would be possible to pass the exam. However in my opinion your study should focus on learning and explaining instead of getting 90% at a certain time because then your goal is not right.

    So take the tests and try to get maximum scores and meanwhile makes sure that this perfect score is a score you can vouch for. If you know why answers are the answers for the questions you are on the right track. You'll see that you'll feel much more confident than just memorizing the questions.

    Maurice 

    • Marked as answer by o-o-o-o Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:46 PM

All replies

  • Hi,

    First of people are not allowed to talk about exam questions (this is what you agree to when you check the box before taking the exam) so no answer from me on that one. By training with the measure up test you will get as close to a simulation as one might wish. Types of questions are always explained before the exam starts. What's really important to know is why one would ask such questions. When rearranging lists there is always a logic behind it just as there is with multiple choice questions. There's always the logic why an answer is right ot wrong. I always tell my student to see the logic. By preparing and hands on one is able to use logice to tackle questions.

    For the percentage of measure up tests i have to say that i always started with a first score of 35% or 40%. After that is practice and practice again, take the test again and read the explanation for the answers. By repeating this process you will see the logic and you'l notice that it isn't really memorizing questions but you can actually explain why that answer should be right. Sure there will be enough people who score 90 on there first test but not everyone does and one should not be ashamed if one doesn't, i know i'm not ;-)

    Good luck on taking the exam

    Maurice 

    • Marked as answer by o-o-o-o Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
    Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:22 PM
  • Thanks Maurice.

     

                As regards to my first question I am sorry about asking you to break your NDA. I found those questions too ambiguous (at least some which are worded in the practices along with the book) – that I wondered about the quality of questions on the real exam.

     

                I think I did not explain my second question correctly. I meant to suggest that a number of people were suggesting that you should score at least 90% on the practice exams before attempting the actual exam. (I have seen this in many places.)

     

    Are these people suggesting that you can take the practice tests as many times as you want as long as you can get a 90% + in your most recent attempts?

     

    (I started out with a 64% in my first attempt and am getting consistently 90% right now – so I am just curious.)

     

    Thanks again,

    O.O.

    Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:56 PM
  • Hmm. I wouldn't do it that way. I used the Practice Tests of MeasureUp to test my knowledge and my target was always to answer all questions correctly!

    So what did I do:

    - Training mode only.

    - I go through the question and then I tell for each anser why it is correct or wrong.

    - Then I check if the answer and my understanding is correct. If not I read about the details and learn about the stuff much more.

    That way I had no problem with any exam I did so far.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    EDIT: And yes, the NDA forbids us to talk about the eam. But if you check MeasureUp and SelfTestSftware: They are gold certified partner for these tests so I think it is ok to assume that their products should be exactly in a way how the exam is.

    • Marked as answer by o-o-o-o Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:52 AM
    Answerer
  • Hi

    Everyone will tell you that yuo should score 90% but that should not be your goal. As Konrad states it's better to take the tests and review the answers. Try to explain why that's the correct answer. The 90% is just a safety margin so when yo score a little less it would be possible to pass the exam. However in my opinion your study should focus on learning and explaining instead of getting 90% at a certain time because then your goal is not right.

    So take the tests and try to get maximum scores and meanwhile makes sure that this perfect score is a score you can vouch for. If you know why answers are the answers for the questions you are on the right track. You'll see that you'll feel much more confident than just memorizing the questions.

    Maurice 

    • Marked as answer by o-o-o-o Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
    Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:46 PM
  • Thanks Maurice & Konrad.

     

                This is going to be my first Certification exam, so I did not know how to go about it. Thanks for your suggestions – I think I would be taking the exam in another 3 – 4 weeks.

     

    O.O.

    Friday, September 17, 2010 4:58 PM
  • Hi, I'm student too, about this exam. It's a lot information. I use  MS Self Paced Book second edition. How to get the practice test measureup ?. I think with only test of the book is not enough suficient.

     


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