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Download Manager + WSUS + Windows Defender + Windows Security Center + E-mail system (like Exchange)

General discussion
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I have few ideas to make WHS better.
1.) Download Manager
What about download manager directly integrated to WHS? Just send request to download file and when is file downloaded it will be placed to shared folder... I think this may be good feature...
2.) WSUS
Please integrate WSUS directly into WHS GUI. I knows WSUS is quite complicated, so please make slim version of WSUS and integrate it...
3.) Windows Defender
Windows Defender is good application, and I think it is good to integrate it into WHS, because shared folders can be infected, and this application is good to protect users.
4.) Windows Security Center
I can't find Windows Security Center, I think this is good feature for home users - so I think it is good to integrate this directly into WHS GUI.
5.) E-mail system (like Exchange)
think it is necessary to add email system to store emails, contacts, calendar, etc. and communicate like an Exchange Server with Outlook and Windows Mobile device, without this feature is WHS unnecessary.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:35 PM
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A Download Manager might be good, however, you can just map to shares and select that as the download location.
WSUS, I agree.. although, I'd be happy just to see WSUS works on WHS v1 and maybe a full blow implementation in a future release/Service Pack.
Windows Defender, well, this you can probably just install on WHS? However, since users won't be surfing the internet or running/installing applications on the WHS, there is a significantly reduced risk of it becoming infected, as long as it's updated. Simply storing a virus or malware execuatable on the share won't infect the system.
Windows Security Center.. same boat as Windows Defender.
Exchange, well, that would be nice, but would bring up the price and development time. So, perhaps as a more expensive option in the future, but no for WHS v1 IMO.Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:18 PM -
There's a good post over on the home server blog about why the team decided not to include exchange functionality. You can get to it hereWednesday, February 21, 2007 9:22 PM
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Hello,
Concerning WSUS, it will not be implemented (at least for now, I hope they will change their mind).
See the post : http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1246752&SiteID=50
Marc.
Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:43 AM -
I'd like to see something like SMS so that I could schedule installs and update to other programs.Saturday, February 24, 2007 3:18 AM
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I agree on most points.
1. Download manager and/or bittorrent client is a MUST if this is to be the always on box of the home. When installing the connector client on client PC's it must be easy to add a context menu that allows the user to send an http or ftp download request to the WHS box.If it has a .torrent extension then the BT client picks it up. Adds NOTHING to the complexity of WHS and is a win /win as well as surely easy to implement. A selling point has to be that this is the only box you need to leave switched on guzzling power all night :)
2. WSUS I certainly have no objections too... but as you say it is complex and would have to be simplified greatly
3. Windows Defender is a no-brainer. It has to be included and should be capable of propogating updates and schedules to the clients
4. The security centre integration could be better at this point. Couldnt the WHS force a clients firewall to be switched on if the user switches it off for instance?
5. Although I think exchange is over the top. There should be a sound and reliable way to back up email. For instance creating .pst's of users pop3 accounts. 99% of home users use pop3 and its tough to reinstate a single email for example with what is availabe now from a pop3 account.Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:07 AM -
Seerr wrote: Couldnt the WHS force a clients firewall to be switched on if the user switches it off for instance? I stand to be corrected, but, you'll probably have to start playing with things like GPO's for that (I know for a fact you can do that with GPO's because we use it at work, but don't know of a simpler way), and that is going a bit beyond the scope of WHS...
As for the mail, I am sure I am not the only IT engineer who is glad to come home at the end of the day and if there is a server side mail problem it is SOMEBODY ELSE'S problem, I spend a good portion of my life on our work Exchange, I would probably lose that last little bit of sanity I have if I had to run the mail server at home as well.
I do love the WSUS idea though - I see some posts say that people are running it fine on WHS so I will definately give that a go once I have WHS up and running (installing as I type).
As a matter of interest, has anybody tried the Server 2003 AdminPak? Does it work?
Friday, March 9, 2007 8:58 PM -
I agree with Seerr on point 1, check out www.flashget.com , they provided an addon whereby I can send a download request (via email) to a PC anywhere on the web and get it to download. Useful when I am on the field or office and wanted to download sometime, I can just send a request and when I come home the file is downloaded in the shared folder.Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:53 PM
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I definately agree with WSUS, Defender, Security Center, and Exchange "lite". I also wish they would make a centralized Defender Management console. I use AVG for Anti-Virus and their network edition is awesome, it communicates with all the clients and notifies the clients of new updates (even machines not on the local network), and receives reports about virus scans and app version and definition version. This has really simplified my life of trying to take care of client computers and I bought extra licenses so I can use it for my family as well.
I love the possibilities that WHS offers as long as MS does not cripple it.
Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:59 PM -
Download manager running on WHS would be a really nice feature. The box is on all the time so it can make the most of the quiet times on your network. Sure sometimes you want it NOW, but for almost all of my big downloads I can wait...
WSUS again would be nice, but not sure if it would be worth it compared to running Automatic Updates on each PC.
Defender, can't see why this isn't part of the install. Why would you NOT want it running on your server?
E-mail system, got to be carefull about not including exchange, I don't think most of us need the features or complexity but a shared (household activities) calendar and contacts would put a whole row of bells on as far as I'm concerned. At least have a "robust" method of storing your mail storage on the WHS.
Monday, March 12, 2007 3:19 PM -
I think download manager would be a great idea, actually better yet it would be nice to provide a suite of download utilities, newsgroup reader, download manger for http/ftp, and some basic network utilities
If defender works in 2003, it should be included, no reason not to.
Email, i don't think exchange would be the best solution, too much of a headache, to much work to implement, but i think a way to setup up .PST/config settings from office 2007 to the WHS would be great. I want to be able to access my pop3 accounts from my laptop, without having to RDP to my desktop.Monday, March 12, 2007 10:57 PM -
WSUS WSUS WSUS
Did I mention I agree that WSUS would be a great idea?
:)
Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:29 AM -
LurchZA wrote: As for the mail, I am sure I am not the only IT engineer who is glad to come home at the end of the day and if there is a server side mail problem it is SOMEBODY ELSE'S problem, I spend a good portion of my life on our work Exchange, I would probably lose that last little bit of sanity I have if I had to run the mail server at home as well.
I couldn't agree more. I think that 90% of the people clamoring for Exchange have never truly dealt with it on a daily basis. If I really wanted to run my own email, and I truly don't, I would use POP3 & SMTP. If I wanted a calendar I would just roll my own interface with .NET and run it on the server.
Windows Defender is a good idea but a bad piece of software (at this time). Still better than nothing.
WSUS is intriguing. It seemed very important until I realized that my download speed makes downloading the same updates for every PC not really a big deal. Then again, not everyone has a big pipe and it would be nice. I think a smart download manager that works off RSS would be great. I hate software that sits and polls to see if it needs to be updated but for whatever reason I'm ok with RSS doing the same thing.Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:04 PM -
WhatBackHand wrote: WSUS again would be nice, but not sure if it would be worth it compared to running Automatic Updates on each PC.
i dont know about anybody else but i dont do automatic updates anyways. how many times has a microsoft update open more holes than it fixed? more times than whats worth risking imo. so allowing wsus would be a huge selling point for me and others i have talked to about this. i like the whole idea of being able to run wsus just like i do on my regular server. now fully supporting this would give me a good reason to use a straight whs instead of keeping a 2003 server around. less computer = better for me
Monday, March 19, 2007 9:15 PM -
I don'T think, that exchange should be implemented - WHS is for home users and most of them don't really now, how to administrate it.
The concept imho is: Keep it simple.
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:08 AM