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  • I apologize for the length of this and if it’s been asked already but I didn’t find it doing a search.

     

    Testing the Client Restore part of Vail to see how it works and to see if the lack of driver support for the NIC and hard drive controller had been improved especially for x64 PCs over WHS v1. What I found is it has been somewhat. WHS v2 did load my Realtek NIC drivers and found the server with no problems. The restore did not however see my hard driver controller. I do run a RAID 0 array so I wasn’t too surprised that this happened. While it would be nice to have even better driver support in Vail I understand how the target user (read average) doesn’t set up their hardware this way so these kinds of drivers are low on the list.

     

    In WHS v1 the work around was either supply the drivers manually or to open a backup and grab the folder “Drivers Used for Restore” or however it was labeled and place them on the restore media. I opened a backup to get this folder only to find two folders. One is labeled “Drivers for Full System Restore” and a second folder called “Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore.” What else I noticed that on the Client in the root of C: is only the folder “Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore."

     

    Question 1: which folder does a person use for the drivers for the restore wizard?

     

    Related to restore. With WHS v1 if all else failed you could remove the hard drive from the dead PC and install it in another client and run Client Restore Wizard in C:\Program Files\Windows Home Server. I don’t see this option with WHS v2 looking in the C:\Program Files\Windows Server\Bin folder.

     

    Question 2: what is the app can we do this with now in WHS v2?

     

    Lastly just a comment. I would much prefer the Explore tree in the Select Items To Restore window when doing a single file restore. This makes it much easier to browse files than the way it is now. I realize you can open Explore on the client and browse the file tree in drive Z:\ that way. So I can live with the way it is but it still would be nice to have an Explore window we are used to. If you would like me to make that suggestion on Connect I can do that.

     

    Thanks for all your help and hard work on Vail. It is really looking nice and adding some much needed improvements.

    fasthair

    Wednesday, May 5, 2010 5:01 AM

Answers

  • Comments inline

    I apologize for the length of this and if it’s been asked already but I didn’t find it doing a search.

     

    Testing the Client Restore part of Vail to see how it works and to see if the lack of driver support for the NIC and hard drive controller had been improved especially for x64 PCs over WHS v1. What I found is it has been somewhat. WHS v2 did load my Realtek NIC drivers and found the server with no problems. The restore did not however see my hard driver controller. I do run a RAID 0 array so I wasn’t too surprised that this happened. While it would be nice to have even better driver support in Vail I understand how the target user (read average) doesn’t set up their hardware this way so these kinds of drivers are low on the list.

    [Bodhi] Yes RAID systems on normal client computers is not that common, and thats why we did not provide additional features to support that. Also the restore CD is based on WinPE which only comes with the default set of drivers. It is Win 7 so the list is a little better. Additionally you have both 32 bit and 64 bit image.

     

    In WHS v1 the work around was either supply the drivers manually or to open a backup and grab the folder “Drivers Used for Restore” or however it was labeled and place them on the restore media. I opened a backup to get this folder only to find two folders. One is labeled “Drivers for Full System Restore” and a second folder called “Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore.” What else I noticed that on the Client in the root of C: is only the folder “Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore."

     

    Question 1: which folder does a person use for the drivers for the restore wizard?

    [Bodhi]: “Drivers for Full System Restore”

     

    Related to restore. With WHS v1 if all else failed you could remove the hard drive from the dead PC and install it in another client and run Client Restore Wizard in C:\Program Files\Windows Home Server. I don’t see this option with WHS v2 looking in the C:\Program Files\Windows Server\Bin folder.

    [Bodhi] This is currently not possible. It wasn't a supported feature in WHS V1 either.

     

    Question 2: what is the app can we do this with now in WHS v2?

     

    Lastly just a comment. I would much prefer the Explore tree in the Select Items To Restore window when doing a single file restore. This makes it much easier to browse files than the way it is now. I realize you can open Explore on the client and browse the file tree in drive Z:\ that way. So I can live with the way it is but it still would be nice to have an Explore window we are used to. If you would like me to make that suggestion on Connect I can do that.

    [Bodhi] Believe it or not, but opening the explorer wizard has faired extremely badly in terms of usability with our customers. People expect a sort of step by step restore process with a confirmation in the end that things they are restoring actually did restore. The wizard came out of all that research we did with our customers. There are some minor enhancements on the way but the basic wizard will be the same in this release.

     

    Thanks for all your help and hard work on Vail. It is really looking nice and adding some much needed improvements.

    fasthair


    Bodhi Deb - MSFT
    Wednesday, May 5, 2010 6:57 PM

All replies

  • The drivers that you want are "Drivers for Full System Restore". "Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore" is a legacy from when your computer was joined to your V1 server; in certain circumstances that folder could be left behind when a backup finished.

    As for restoring a full drive on another computer, I agree, there isn't an obvious way to do this in Vail. I've posted a suggestion on Connect that this be added to the product...


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Wednesday, May 5, 2010 12:23 PM
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  • Comments inline

    I apologize for the length of this and if it’s been asked already but I didn’t find it doing a search.

     

    Testing the Client Restore part of Vail to see how it works and to see if the lack of driver support for the NIC and hard drive controller had been improved especially for x64 PCs over WHS v1. What I found is it has been somewhat. WHS v2 did load my Realtek NIC drivers and found the server with no problems. The restore did not however see my hard driver controller. I do run a RAID 0 array so I wasn’t too surprised that this happened. While it would be nice to have even better driver support in Vail I understand how the target user (read average) doesn’t set up their hardware this way so these kinds of drivers are low on the list.

    [Bodhi] Yes RAID systems on normal client computers is not that common, and thats why we did not provide additional features to support that. Also the restore CD is based on WinPE which only comes with the default set of drivers. It is Win 7 so the list is a little better. Additionally you have both 32 bit and 64 bit image.

     

    In WHS v1 the work around was either supply the drivers manually or to open a backup and grab the folder “Drivers Used for Restore” or however it was labeled and place them on the restore media. I opened a backup to get this folder only to find two folders. One is labeled “Drivers for Full System Restore” and a second folder called “Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore.” What else I noticed that on the Client in the root of C: is only the folder “Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore."

     

    Question 1: which folder does a person use for the drivers for the restore wizard?

    [Bodhi]: “Drivers for Full System Restore”

     

    Related to restore. With WHS v1 if all else failed you could remove the hard drive from the dead PC and install it in another client and run Client Restore Wizard in C:\Program Files\Windows Home Server. I don’t see this option with WHS v2 looking in the C:\Program Files\Windows Server\Bin folder.

    [Bodhi] This is currently not possible. It wasn't a supported feature in WHS V1 either.

     

    Question 2: what is the app can we do this with now in WHS v2?

     

    Lastly just a comment. I would much prefer the Explore tree in the Select Items To Restore window when doing a single file restore. This makes it much easier to browse files than the way it is now. I realize you can open Explore on the client and browse the file tree in drive Z:\ that way. So I can live with the way it is but it still would be nice to have an Explore window we are used to. If you would like me to make that suggestion on Connect I can do that.

    [Bodhi] Believe it or not, but opening the explorer wizard has faired extremely badly in terms of usability with our customers. People expect a sort of step by step restore process with a confirmation in the end that things they are restoring actually did restore. The wizard came out of all that research we did with our customers. There are some minor enhancements on the way but the basic wizard will be the same in this release.

     

    Thanks for all your help and hard work on Vail. It is really looking nice and adding some much needed improvements.

    fasthair


    Bodhi Deb - MSFT
    Wednesday, May 5, 2010 6:57 PM
  • Thank you Bodhi for the answers. Even though Client Restore Wizard wasn't a supportd way of doing things it sure came in handy when all else failed. I sure hope MS puts that feature in Vail because it was a life saver more than once when all the supported ways failed.

    Thanks Ken for the Connect post. I voted it up. I hope others do too.

    fasthair

    Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:30 PM