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Hi i have been using vista for 2-3 years and now it suddenly says 2 error messages.. RRS feed

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  • Hey i get you may be a victim of software counterfeiting and a optional update delivery is not working and now i cant access control panel or computer specs without safe mode.  It wouldent be all that bad if i didnt need to go to my computer specifications to host a server..

    well i just found trend micro/hijackthis in program files searches didn't showup, i deleted the folder.
    ok now it couldent start and repaired and it backed up all of one day amazing.. that just sets me back more.. a response would help alot what makes everyone else so special all i want is to access m control panel and computer specifications. and now the optional delivery error is back.

    I'm not messages here anymore, control panel and computer specs wont work -.- if those would work id be fine.
    any ideas? or do i have to reinstall or what? and would i have to input the key or would it be automatic with my acer?
    oh perfect now i get -.- after restarting licensing sl ui notification and readyboost but control panel still dosent work great... wow ok now i found system inforation and it says there was an update on 04 from.. the same day M(sequence of numbers date time) had the problem but K is on the second so.. K:20090902221438205-M:20090906143651713-

    ok i uninstalled august update and now i get this message again http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8149/problemmx.jpg   after i restarted so i can install sp2 now.. what i find odd is in safe mode with without networking control panel/computer specifications work fine so.. virus? Well hopefully this is enough info and now im going to bed.

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    Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:13 PM

Answers

  • Hello vista owner2006,

    Vista is in, what we call a 'Mod-Auth' Tamper state.  There are 2 types of Mod-Auth tampers.

    1)    A critical system file was modified On Disk - What this means is that the file, located on the hard drive, was modified in some way. This can be caused by a malicious program (spyware, malware, virus) or by manual file modification (by a user of the system). There is also a very small chance that an Update may fail in mid-update and cause this type of issue. As a safety mechanism, Updates are made so that if they fail, they roll back any updating that was done before the failure, but there is an off-chance that the roll back did not occur.

     

    2)    A critical system file was modified In Memory - What this means is the file itself (on the hard drive) is un-modified, but the code, from that file, running in the system, was modified in some way and is caused by a running program that is incompatible with Vista.

     

      Because there is No Mismatched files listed under the "File Scan Data-->" line of your Diagnostic Report, we know that your issue is an In Memory Mod-Auth and therefore caused by an incompatible program. This means there is a program install and Running that is trying to access parts of the OS that Vista does not allow, which by definition, means it is incompatible with Vista.

    NOTE: We have seen an increase in this type of issue and we believe it is unlikely that software writers are still making programs that are incompatible with Vista. Instead, we believe that a majority of the issues are being caused by Malware that are doing the same things (on purpose) as incompatible programs do (by accident).

     

      In addition to why a Mod-Auth occurs, it's also important to understand how Vista detects a Mod-Auth event. There is a Service that runs in Vista that detects a Tamper to a Critical System file. But this Service runs randomly, so if you were to install an incompatible program and run it, Vista (most likely) would not immediately enter a Mod-Auth  State and it could take some time for the Mod-Auth to be detected. The important point to note is that the moment Vista detects the Mod-Auth, you know that the program that is causing the Mod-Auth, is currently running.

     

       Below I have provided a number of steps to help you identify the program that is causing the tamper:
     
      First, go to
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931699/ and confirm that you do not have any of the programs known to cause this type of issue.
     
      Second, in your Diagnostic report above, you can see the line that starts with 'TTS Error:' followed by a bunch numbers: M:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- This is the Tamper Time Stamp and it breaks down like this:

        (year)  (month) (day) (time in 24format) (millisecond)
    M:
    2009      09        06            1436                   51713-

     Note: I also see a "K" type Tamper Time Stamp. The “K“ stands for Kernel Mode tamper. Once you remove the program that is causing the In Memory Mod-Auth tamper, the Kernel Mode tamper may be resolved as well. But a Kernel Mode Tamper can sometime indicate a Malware infection. To be on the safe side, we strongly suggest scanning your system with the Anti-Virus program of your choice as well as with the OneCare Safety Scanner for Vista (http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm)


    Now that you know the time of the tamper, you can now try to connect that time with a program.

    1)    Login to Vista and select the option that launches an Internet Browser

    2)    Type into the browser address bar: %windir%\system32\perfmon.msc and hit Enter

    3)    When asked if you want to Open or Save this file, select Open

    4)     In the left hand panel, click Reliability Monitor

    5)    Click on the “System Stability Chart” above the date 09/06 

    6)    Below the chart, in the “System Stability Report” section look at the report titled "Software (Un)Installs for 09/06/2009 "

    7)    Look for any program that shows "Application Install" in the 'Activity' column.

    8)    Since the process that detects Tampers runs randomly, it can take up to 3 days for the process to detect the tamper and set Vista to a Tamper State. Because of this, please repeat steps 5) thru 7) for the dates 09/05/2009, 09/04/2009 and 09/03/2009  (or around the date the issue first occurred)

      This could tell you what programs were installed on or around the Tamper date and should help you narrow down the possible programs that could be causing the issue. Unfortunately, if you installed the program at some time in the past, but didn’t run it till now, this process may not be helpful.  The removal of any application you may have installed recently could go a long way to troubleshooting this issues.

     

    Note: Since everyone has different programs installed on their computer, it is extremely hard for support to figure out what program is causing the problem, but if you still need assistance in identifying the Incompatible Program, please create a no cost support request at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52029

    Also Note: it has been found that Malware, such as Viruses and Trojans, can also be incompatible with Vista and can cause an In Memory Mod-Auth. A number of users (that were experiencing your same issue) have confirmed that a Malware infection was the cause. If you follow the above steps and cannot find a program that is causing the Mod-Auth, you may want to investigate if a Virus, Worm or Trojan may be to blame. You can contact PC Safety, which is a Microsoft group, which provides free assistance with Malware infections. I encourage you to use the ‘Windows Live Safety Scan for Windows Vista’ (http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm) before contacting PC Safety.

    PC Safety:

    http://www.microsoft.com/protect/support/default.mspx

    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm

    Thank you,
    Darin MS
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:02 PM
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:02 PM

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  • Hello vista owner2006,

    Vista is in, what we call a 'Mod-Auth' Tamper state.  There are 2 types of Mod-Auth tampers.

    1)    A critical system file was modified On Disk - What this means is that the file, located on the hard drive, was modified in some way. This can be caused by a malicious program (spyware, malware, virus) or by manual file modification (by a user of the system). There is also a very small chance that an Update may fail in mid-update and cause this type of issue. As a safety mechanism, Updates are made so that if they fail, they roll back any updating that was done before the failure, but there is an off-chance that the roll back did not occur.

     

    2)    A critical system file was modified In Memory - What this means is the file itself (on the hard drive) is un-modified, but the code, from that file, running in the system, was modified in some way and is caused by a running program that is incompatible with Vista.

     

      Because there is No Mismatched files listed under the "File Scan Data-->" line of your Diagnostic Report, we know that your issue is an In Memory Mod-Auth and therefore caused by an incompatible program. This means there is a program install and Running that is trying to access parts of the OS that Vista does not allow, which by definition, means it is incompatible with Vista.

    NOTE: We have seen an increase in this type of issue and we believe it is unlikely that software writers are still making programs that are incompatible with Vista. Instead, we believe that a majority of the issues are being caused by Malware that are doing the same things (on purpose) as incompatible programs do (by accident).

     

      In addition to why a Mod-Auth occurs, it's also important to understand how Vista detects a Mod-Auth event. There is a Service that runs in Vista that detects a Tamper to a Critical System file. But this Service runs randomly, so if you were to install an incompatible program and run it, Vista (most likely) would not immediately enter a Mod-Auth  State and it could take some time for the Mod-Auth to be detected. The important point to note is that the moment Vista detects the Mod-Auth, you know that the program that is causing the Mod-Auth, is currently running.

     

       Below I have provided a number of steps to help you identify the program that is causing the tamper:
     
      First, go to
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931699/ and confirm that you do not have any of the programs known to cause this type of issue.
     
      Second, in your Diagnostic report above, you can see the line that starts with 'TTS Error:' followed by a bunch numbers: M:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- This is the Tamper Time Stamp and it breaks down like this:

        (year)  (month) (day) (time in 24format) (millisecond)
    M:
    2009      09        06            1436                   51713-

     Note: I also see a "K" type Tamper Time Stamp. The “K“ stands for Kernel Mode tamper. Once you remove the program that is causing the In Memory Mod-Auth tamper, the Kernel Mode tamper may be resolved as well. But a Kernel Mode Tamper can sometime indicate a Malware infection. To be on the safe side, we strongly suggest scanning your system with the Anti-Virus program of your choice as well as with the OneCare Safety Scanner for Vista (http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm)


    Now that you know the time of the tamper, you can now try to connect that time with a program.

    1)    Login to Vista and select the option that launches an Internet Browser

    2)    Type into the browser address bar: %windir%\system32\perfmon.msc and hit Enter

    3)    When asked if you want to Open or Save this file, select Open

    4)     In the left hand panel, click Reliability Monitor

    5)    Click on the “System Stability Chart” above the date 09/06 

    6)    Below the chart, in the “System Stability Report” section look at the report titled "Software (Un)Installs for 09/06/2009 "

    7)    Look for any program that shows "Application Install" in the 'Activity' column.

    8)    Since the process that detects Tampers runs randomly, it can take up to 3 days for the process to detect the tamper and set Vista to a Tamper State. Because of this, please repeat steps 5) thru 7) for the dates 09/05/2009, 09/04/2009 and 09/03/2009  (or around the date the issue first occurred)

      This could tell you what programs were installed on or around the Tamper date and should help you narrow down the possible programs that could be causing the issue. Unfortunately, if you installed the program at some time in the past, but didn’t run it till now, this process may not be helpful.  The removal of any application you may have installed recently could go a long way to troubleshooting this issues.

     

    Note: Since everyone has different programs installed on their computer, it is extremely hard for support to figure out what program is causing the problem, but if you still need assistance in identifying the Incompatible Program, please create a no cost support request at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52029

    Also Note: it has been found that Malware, such as Viruses and Trojans, can also be incompatible with Vista and can cause an In Memory Mod-Auth. A number of users (that were experiencing your same issue) have confirmed that a Malware infection was the cause. If you follow the above steps and cannot find a program that is causing the Mod-Auth, you may want to investigate if a Virus, Worm or Trojan may be to blame. You can contact PC Safety, which is a Microsoft group, which provides free assistance with Malware infections. I encourage you to use the ‘Windows Live Safety Scan for Windows Vista’ (http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm) before contacting PC Safety.

    PC Safety:

    http://www.microsoft.com/protect/support/default.mspx

    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm

    Thank you,
    Darin MS
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:02 PM
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:02 PM
  • ty but i fixed it myself already =/
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:03 PM