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  • I have a copy of MS Office 2003 Pro that I purchased in early 2004. The product has worked perfectly and has received updates and service packs regularly for nearly 6 years, but is now being flagged as non-valid due to the key being a VLK that has been blocked. I find this difficult to believe as I have the original box w/inserts and the CD has a very genuine looking label. The key is printed on the box label in the lower left hand corner. It all looks exactly like a friend's copy that passes validation. Follows is the Genuine Diagnostics tool report:

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0011.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0

    Cached Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-KP3TD-4T3JD-CJVRD
    Windows Product Key Hash: Vx8xpEUBaTTSDPq2A606qftew5k=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-292-1250402-85854
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7600.2.00010100.0.0.001
    ID: {B5213C67-4746-47E7-A0D1-A1505AC71C5F}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    WGA Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    WGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: 2.0.48.0
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: Microsoft
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: Microsoft

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: Registered, 2.0.48.0
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{B5213C67-4746-47E7-A0D1-A1505AC71C5F}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0011.0</Version><OS>6.1.7600.2.00010100.0.0.001</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-CJVRD</PKey><PID>00426-292-1250402-85854</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-4177732359-11503666-1317594090</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Hewlett-Packard</Manufacturer><Model>Presario V6000 (RD865AV#ABA)      </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Hewlett-Packard</Manufacturer><Version>F.42    </Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20090309000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>CDB83607018400FC</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Pacific Standard Time(GMT-08:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>HPQOEM</OEMID><OEMTableID>SLIC-MPC</OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification><File Name="OGAAddin.dll" Version="2.0.48.0"/></GANotification></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>114</Result><Products><Product GUID="{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}"><LegitResult>114</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003</Name><Ver>11</Ver><Val>59D1605114E3500</Val><Hash>vfZmaSmFPIYrLWTcZSZErUQg+Fo=</Hash><Pid>73931-640-0000106-57825</Pid><PidType>14</PidType></Product><Product GUID="{91120000-0014-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Professional 2007</Name><Ver>12</Ver><Val>88805046EF3AEBE</Val><Hash>OlhhdHmJEATHA0/VnYJQFNXLpWI=</Hash><Pid>81605-863-7167581-65488</Pid><PidType>8</PidType></Product></Products><Applications><App Id="15" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="16" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="18" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="19" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="1A" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="1B" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="44" Version="11" Result="114"/><App Id="15" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="16" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="18" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="19" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1A" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1B" Version="12" Result="100"/></Applications></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7600.16385

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: ac96e1a8-6cc4-4310-a4ff-332ce77fb5b8
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00426-00170-292-125040-00-1033-7600.0000-2922009
    Installation ID: 011383204032625300244423488391611061686172660982740333
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: CJVRD
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 11/24/2009 1:16:28 PM

    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MAAAAAEAAgABAAEAAQABAAAAAgABAAEAJJT+06iIWtlIJMzqvN9qWeIMaAbMjHLB

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x0
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC   HP        APIC 
      FACP   HP      MCP51M 
      HPET   PTLTD   HPETTBL
      BOOT   HP  $SBFTBL$
      MCFG   HP        MCFG 
      SSDT   PTLTD   POWERNOW
      SLIC   HPQOEM  SLIC-MPC

    Also, follows is the explanation from Microsoft:

    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003

    Problem: The product key used to install Office has been identified by Microsoft as a key that was issued to a large, corporate customer. This key is reserved for the exclusive use of this customer, and cannot be used to install other copies of Microsoft Office.

    There is also a statement in another answer on this page posted May 30, 2008 at 12:06AM that states:

    Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) is here to help protect YOU, our valued customer. It is important for more people like you to report piracy @
    http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/default.mspx  who have become victims. Microsoft legal will follow up on all leads provided.  Submitting piracy reports will assist in stopping unscrupulous business practices.  We CANNOT determine the "Quality" level of non-Genuine submissions and cannot guarantee such a thing here on the forum. You may be eligible for free software if you have high quality counterfeit discs as illustrated here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/content.aspx?displaylang=en&pg=counterfeit .

    How can I find out if I can get free software because of the counterfeit I have (if that is what it is)?

    Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:29 PM

Answers

  • Hello rebell1952,

    Here is a snippet of your mgadiag report:

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: Registered, 2.0.48.0
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    The report is telling us that your HP computer has a Non-Genuine installation of a Volume Licensing-only edition of Office Professional Edition 2003.  Your installation was done with a widely pirated and now-blocked Volume Licensing Key (VLK).

    The report is also showing that you have a Genuine installation of Office Professional 2007 on the computer.

    The currently installed Volume License did not come preinstalled on your computer from HP.  If your computer did come with an extra cost installation of Office from HP, then it was replaced by this nongenuine installation at some point.  If it was repalced, then in order to Get Genuine, you have to use the product discs and product key supplied by HP with the computer purchase, and after uninstalling the nongenuine installation of Office, install the genuine Office from those HP-supplied discs.

    Volume Licensing editions of Office such as your installation of Office Professional Edition 2003 are not to be sold to individual consumers, and are only to be sold to larger businesses, educational institutions, and governmental agencies who have a Volume License Agreement with Microsoft.

    These Volume Licenses should not be sold to consumers because they are not permanent licenses; they are subject to a current Volume Licensing Agreement that has a finite term, sort of like a lease.  Consumers thinking they purchased permanently licensd software would understandably be upset when their software stopped working at the end of a lease. If you purchased Office Professional Edition 2003 thinking you were buying genuine retail Office Professional Edition 2003 for consumers with a permanent license, please return the software to the place of purchase for replacement or a full refund.

    You can also review the Office Genuine Advantage FAQ to see if you qualify for the discounted or complimentary replacement program called the Office Genuine Offer:  http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx?displaylang=en&sGuid=4ba10af9-ffaa-4cb9-9af4-6aff8a220262#ID0EKNAC  If you decide to take advantage of the Office Genuine Offer, please click the Learn More Online link to start your participation.

    If you do not have a need for Office Professional 2003 since you have Office Professional 2007, another way that you can correct the problem would be by uninstalling the nongenuine Office Professional 2003.


    For great advice on all topics XP, visit http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Friday, December 4, 2009 11:30 PM
    Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:03 AM
  • Hello rebell1952,

    So, let me get this straight...

    1.  You somehow acquired nongenuine Microsoft Office (for which Microsoft was most likely not paid).

    2.  You used in on several computers for six years.

    3.  It was recently identified as nongenuine.

    4.  You researched the issue and still did not believe that it was nongenuine, so you posted here asking about it.

    5.  You were told that the software is nongenuine based on an analysis of the data in the report.

    6.  You were also told that you may qualify for a free replacement of the nongenuine software, or at the very least qualify for a discounted copy of the replacement software.  An oddly generous offer from an unsympathetic, evil, unethical corporation staffed by greedy bastards, don't you think?

    [Let's try that set of circumstances with a $100 bill.  Unbeknowst to you, you somehow acquired a counterfeit $100 bill six years ago.  It was a good counterfeit so you didn't notice.  It was in your sock drawer for six years.  One day you decided to go to Best Buy and buy a Genuine copy of Microsoft Office.  Because that unsympathetic, evil, unethical corporation staffed by greedy bastards known as Microsoft "has had a free hand in stiffling competition because they have been an uncontrolled monopoly for so long", the price for the edition of Office you want is $499.  You hand the cashier five $100 bills.  S/he checks it with one of those currency pens and hands you back the bogus $100 bill saying it's bogus.  You create a scene and exclaim, "It just like the others I handed you and looks just like my friend's $100 bill!!!!"  Then, after you dust yourself off and straighten your clothes from the rough handling you got from Mall Security as they gave you the Bum's Rush out the door (less your copy of Office--remember you were $100 short), you decide to head on over to the local branch of TARP National Bank and get this thing straightened out once and for all.  You enter the line and are now at a Teller window.  You hand the Teller the funny money $100 bill and ask them to check the bill.  The Teller and the Manager both look and verify that, yup, it's bogus.  They put the $100 bill in the designated pouch to be sent to the Federal Reserve Bank and the Teller says, "NEXT!!"  Flummoxed, you cry, "What about my complimentary replacement for that counterfeit $100 bill!"  The Teller looks at you with a smirk and quips, "Hey, this ain't Microsoft, buddy."]

    7.  Thinking that you would not qualify for the free or discounted software, you threw a tantrum and posted a barely rational rant about unsympathetic corporations, cited a section from the Uniform Commerical Code, then wrapped up with something about consumers and licenses being not for you.  (Presumably you will be sending your driver's license back to your State's DMV in Friday's mail.  And returning all those movie DVDs, because after all, you are only licensed to view them, you do not own the content.)

    8.  I am not a lawyer, and I don't even play one on TV.  But, I do know that one of the basic tenets of commercial law is there has to be damages for there to be a case.  Counselor, are you prepared to present someone who will testify that the unsympathetic, evil, unethical corporation staffed by greedy bastards known as Microsoft unlawfully ended one of their perpetual licenses for software?
    For great advice on all topics XP, visit http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Friday, December 4, 2009 11:36 PM
    Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:26 PM

All replies

  • Hello rebell1952,

    Here is a snippet of your mgadiag report:

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 114 Blocked VLK 2
    Microsoft Office Professional 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: Registered, 2.0.48.0
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    The report is telling us that your HP computer has a Non-Genuine installation of a Volume Licensing-only edition of Office Professional Edition 2003.  Your installation was done with a widely pirated and now-blocked Volume Licensing Key (VLK).

    The report is also showing that you have a Genuine installation of Office Professional 2007 on the computer.

    The currently installed Volume License did not come preinstalled on your computer from HP.  If your computer did come with an extra cost installation of Office from HP, then it was replaced by this nongenuine installation at some point.  If it was repalced, then in order to Get Genuine, you have to use the product discs and product key supplied by HP with the computer purchase, and after uninstalling the nongenuine installation of Office, install the genuine Office from those HP-supplied discs.

    Volume Licensing editions of Office such as your installation of Office Professional Edition 2003 are not to be sold to individual consumers, and are only to be sold to larger businesses, educational institutions, and governmental agencies who have a Volume License Agreement with Microsoft.

    These Volume Licenses should not be sold to consumers because they are not permanent licenses; they are subject to a current Volume Licensing Agreement that has a finite term, sort of like a lease.  Consumers thinking they purchased permanently licensd software would understandably be upset when their software stopped working at the end of a lease. If you purchased Office Professional Edition 2003 thinking you were buying genuine retail Office Professional Edition 2003 for consumers with a permanent license, please return the software to the place of purchase for replacement or a full refund.

    You can also review the Office Genuine Advantage FAQ to see if you qualify for the discounted or complimentary replacement program called the Office Genuine Offer:  http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx?displaylang=en&sGuid=4ba10af9-ffaa-4cb9-9af4-6aff8a220262#ID0EKNAC  If you decide to take advantage of the Office Genuine Offer, please click the Learn More Online link to start your participation.

    If you do not have a need for Office Professional 2003 since you have Office Professional 2007, another way that you can correct the problem would be by uninstalling the nongenuine Office Professional 2003.


    For great advice on all topics XP, visit http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Friday, December 4, 2009 11:30 PM
    Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:03 AM
  • Apparently no one actually reads these posts, or they merely skim through them. I think I was more than clear as to what my situation is. I have a jewel case w/inserts and a CD that appear to be completely genuine. The key is printed on the insert. Since I made this purchase some six years ago, I have absolutely no idea where I bought the software and certainly don't have any proof of purchase, especially since the software has been on one or another of my machines and working perfectly - receiving all updates and service packs. In any case Microsoft has no sympathy for anyone who gets screwed and F.Y.I. the Microsoft offer above is only for Office 2007! And then only under extremely limited circumstances that would pretty much exclude everyone. Also, by-the-way, nobody has a permanent license as Microsoft can recall the product at will and at any time (Under sec. 2-309 of the Uniform Commercial Code, a contract (license) without a fixed term is valid for a reasonable [the licensor determines "reasonable"] time and unless otherwise agreed is terminable at will). The greatest blunder consumers ever made was to obtain anything with a "lisence to use" rather than a sale. In any case, you're right, now that I paid the ridiculous price of $499 for Office Pro 2007, I have no need for the 2003 product, but since I have no "proof" of purchase, Microsoft could easily invalidate my software at any time. With Microsoft it is always "buyer beware!"
    Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:24 AM
  • Hello rebell1952,

    Your post was read thoroughly.

    You mentioned that your jewel case, inserts, and CD appear to be genuine.  They may be genuine.  They may not be genuine.  What we know for sure is that the product is a Volume Licensing product, and that if you do not have a current and valid Volume Licensing Agreement (VLA), whether or not the materials are genuine is irrelevant---use of the materials without the VLA is a nongenuine use of the software.  We also know that the product key used to install this product is one of the two most widely pirated Microsoft product keys.

    Office products up thru Office 2007 do not have built-in antipiracy mechanisms like Vista and Windows 7 do.  The only way you would be informed by Microsoft that your product is nongenuine would be by installing the Office Genuine Advantage notifications utility, which beginning in September 2009 was distributed as a Windows Update, or by attempting to download specific nice-to-have Office content from Microsoft Downloads that first requires that the Office installation be validated.

    It's true that some people throw out potentially important records and some people save them.

    Your statement, "In any case Microsoft has no sympathy for anyone who gets screwed and F.Y.I. the Microsoft offer above is only for Office 2007! And then only under extremely limited circumstances that would pretty much exclude everyone." is just plain wrong on several points.  First, a corporation is an artificial entity that is incapable of human emotion, so your statement about sympathy is illogical.  Second, the Office Genuine Offer is open to people with nongenuine installations of Office XP, 2003 and 2007.  The Office that you receive that replaces nongenuine Office XP, 2003, or 2007 is limited to the equivalent edition of 2007.  Third, your assertion that the Offer is extremely limited to the point where most victims of counterfeit Office software are excluded is not true.  There are limitations, but those are there to make sure the offer is extended to those who have something to prove they bought counterfeit software, such as a counterfeit installation CD that bears a resemblance to the real McCoy.

    I don't know why you would state that you have no proof of purchase.  The retail package for Office has a yellow-orange label inside that states "Proof of License" and there is a Certificate of Authenticity on the outside of the box.  If you purchased the product online and downloaded the files, then I agree the nature of the transaction for that means of acquiring the product is certainly more ephemeral than the more conventional go-to-the-store-and-buy-a-box-with-a-disc-in-it method, but if that sort of thing bothers you, why didn't you go to the store and buy a box with a disc in it?

    Microsoft sells licenses for its software under many different models.  As a consumer you would encounter only two models:  OEM licensed software and retail licensed software.  Both of these are perpetual licenses that allow you to use the software according to the agreed-to Software Licensing Terms until death (in the case of OEM licenses, that would be the "death" of the computer onto which the software was first installed; in the case of retail licensed software, that would be your own death).  Isn't that enough?
    For great advice on all topics XP, visit http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp
    Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:14 AM
  • Thank you Mr. Data/Spock for that insightful lesson in logic! The greedy bastards that own, run and work at Microsoft are real people and without them the "corporate entity" couldn't exist. Hiding behind the "corporate entity" so you can pretend you have no responsibility for the multitude of unethical practices of the corporation might be some kind of "logic" to you, but is merely a transparent lie. Tell God when you see him, maybe he will accept your pathetic excuse. As to your claim of a "perpetual license," that's another bald faced lie, but Microsoft is good at that; what is it about the law (Sec. 2-309 of the Uniform Commercial Code) you don't understand? Oh right, Microsoft isn't a real person, so it can't understand anything. And apparently, with enough money, it is also above the law. You (and I mean that personally) are as full of bull as Microsoft. I used to think that the Apple, "I'm a PC, I'm a Mac" comercials were unfair, but I'm beginning to see the truth in them. It's just too bad that Apple (of course I mean their owns and operartors) are even more greedy than Microsoft. It's too bad that Microsoft has had a free hand in stiffling competition because they have been an uncontrolled monopoly for so long. So, peddle your platitudes somewhere else.
    Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:00 AM
  • Hello rebell1952,

    So, let me get this straight...

    1.  You somehow acquired nongenuine Microsoft Office (for which Microsoft was most likely not paid).

    2.  You used in on several computers for six years.

    3.  It was recently identified as nongenuine.

    4.  You researched the issue and still did not believe that it was nongenuine, so you posted here asking about it.

    5.  You were told that the software is nongenuine based on an analysis of the data in the report.

    6.  You were also told that you may qualify for a free replacement of the nongenuine software, or at the very least qualify for a discounted copy of the replacement software.  An oddly generous offer from an unsympathetic, evil, unethical corporation staffed by greedy bastards, don't you think?

    [Let's try that set of circumstances with a $100 bill.  Unbeknowst to you, you somehow acquired a counterfeit $100 bill six years ago.  It was a good counterfeit so you didn't notice.  It was in your sock drawer for six years.  One day you decided to go to Best Buy and buy a Genuine copy of Microsoft Office.  Because that unsympathetic, evil, unethical corporation staffed by greedy bastards known as Microsoft "has had a free hand in stiffling competition because they have been an uncontrolled monopoly for so long", the price for the edition of Office you want is $499.  You hand the cashier five $100 bills.  S/he checks it with one of those currency pens and hands you back the bogus $100 bill saying it's bogus.  You create a scene and exclaim, "It just like the others I handed you and looks just like my friend's $100 bill!!!!"  Then, after you dust yourself off and straighten your clothes from the rough handling you got from Mall Security as they gave you the Bum's Rush out the door (less your copy of Office--remember you were $100 short), you decide to head on over to the local branch of TARP National Bank and get this thing straightened out once and for all.  You enter the line and are now at a Teller window.  You hand the Teller the funny money $100 bill and ask them to check the bill.  The Teller and the Manager both look and verify that, yup, it's bogus.  They put the $100 bill in the designated pouch to be sent to the Federal Reserve Bank and the Teller says, "NEXT!!"  Flummoxed, you cry, "What about my complimentary replacement for that counterfeit $100 bill!"  The Teller looks at you with a smirk and quips, "Hey, this ain't Microsoft, buddy."]

    7.  Thinking that you would not qualify for the free or discounted software, you threw a tantrum and posted a barely rational rant about unsympathetic corporations, cited a section from the Uniform Commerical Code, then wrapped up with something about consumers and licenses being not for you.  (Presumably you will be sending your driver's license back to your State's DMV in Friday's mail.  And returning all those movie DVDs, because after all, you are only licensed to view them, you do not own the content.)

    8.  I am not a lawyer, and I don't even play one on TV.  But, I do know that one of the basic tenets of commercial law is there has to be damages for there to be a case.  Counselor, are you prepared to present someone who will testify that the unsympathetic, evil, unethical corporation staffed by greedy bastards known as Microsoft unlawfully ended one of their perpetual licenses for software?
    For great advice on all topics XP, visit http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Friday, December 4, 2009 11:36 PM
    Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:26 PM