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    I have been using WHS with wifi, works perfect, Installed Server 2008 and this did not support WIFI.

    My question is, if Vail is built on 2008 will there be WIFI support or not?

     

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    Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:37 PM

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    Vail will not support (in the sense of "not a good idea" not "won't work period") being attached to your network via a wireless LAN connection. This is unchanged from V1. You can try installing appropriate drivers for your wireless NIC, but I don't promise anything.

    You can connect your clients wirelessly, and they'll back up and communicate with your server. However, you will be unable to restore wirelessly unless you have no security on your wireless network. This is also unchanged from V1 (and wireless restore is unsupported even if your network is wide open).

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:01 PM
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    The Public Beta only supports a single network card at the time.  I think you probably want this to be wired.  We are working in the RTM release to be able to have multiple network cards, where one of them can be a Wifi Address.
     
    You may wonder why I say it only supports one network card.  This is because we can only point the router port to one IP address on the internal LAN, thus making it hard to have the Remote Access site available on both network cards. 
     
    I’d wait for the next beta/RC to try these scenarios... but if you aren’t afraid of a re-install, have at it with your single nic!
     
    Sean
     
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    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:cf213571-9e1c-4dbb-8ec5-448d2b2e6915...

    Vail will not support (in the sense of "not a good idea" not "won't work period") being attached to your network via a wireless LAN connection. This is unchanged from V1. You can try installing appropriate drivers for your wireless NIC, but I don't promise anything.

    You can connect your clients wirelessly, and they'll back up and communicate with your server. However, you will be unable to restore wirelessly unless you have no security on your wireless network. This is also unchanged from V1 (and wireless restore is unsupported even if your network is wide open).

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:38 PM
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    Server 2008 DOES support wifi, but you must enable the wireless lan service first before it will work.  Have not tried on Vail yet so cannot answer that directly but it should.
    Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:58 PM
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    Vail will not support (in the sense of "not a good idea" not "won't work period") being attached to your network via a wireless LAN connection. This is unchanged from V1. You can try installing appropriate drivers for your wireless NIC, but I don't promise anything.

    You can connect your clients wirelessly, and they'll back up and communicate with your server. However, you will be unable to restore wirelessly unless you have no security on your wireless network. This is also unchanged from V1 (and wireless restore is unsupported even if your network is wide open).

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:01 PM
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    I did try this on server 2008 but couldnt get it to work, I will give it a try and post feedback
    Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:08 PM
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    The Public Beta only supports a single network card at the time.  I think you probably want this to be wired.  We are working in the RTM release to be able to have multiple network cards, where one of them can be a Wifi Address.
     
    You may wonder why I say it only supports one network card.  This is because we can only point the router port to one IP address on the internal LAN, thus making it hard to have the Remote Access site available on both network cards. 
     
    I’d wait for the next beta/RC to try these scenarios... but if you aren’t afraid of a re-install, have at it with your single nic!
     
    Sean
     
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    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:cf213571-9e1c-4dbb-8ec5-448d2b2e6915...

    Vail will not support (in the sense of "not a good idea" not "won't work period") being attached to your network via a wireless LAN connection. This is unchanged from V1. You can try installing appropriate drivers for your wireless NIC, but I don't promise anything.

    You can connect your clients wirelessly, and they'll back up and communicate with your server. However, you will be unable to restore wirelessly unless you have no security on your wireless network. This is also unchanged from V1 (and wireless restore is unsupported even if your network is wide open).

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:38 PM
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    thanks for your reply.

    out of interest, as there is no physical way to get a cable into the pc where its located. would it work if I disable the lan and only enable the wireless network?

    Friday, April 30, 2010 12:59 PM
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    Probably, but it's still not going to be a supported scenario. Can you relocate your server?
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Friday, April 30, 2010 1:12 PM
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    I really wish I could, its currently under the stairs, and no way of getting a cable to it.

    Very frustrating, I had WHS (the original) working over wireless and it was faultless.

    I have just tried to connect and something very strange has happend, It can see the network, when I connect it says the password is incorrect even though I know its correct.

    I removed the network key and it connected, then from the server, I added a key to the network, and the same issue comes back, wont connect with WPA2 key added.

    I have even tried a factory reset on the router, and it will connect without a key but wont with WPA2.

    I have never come across anything like this before.

    Friday, April 30, 2010 1:20 PM
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    has anyone else tried Vail with wifi?  i would love to know if you have the same issue.

    thanks

    Friday, April 30, 2010 3:30 PM
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    Give it a go then, it’s just a beta.  :)
     
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    "Coleburg76" wrote in message news:a2bb6b08-5c1e-4be3-820e-16a56de7841c...

    has anyone else tried Vail with wifi?  i would love to know if you have the same issue.

    thanks

    Friday, April 30, 2010 5:49 PM
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    Its prob your driver, I would check the WiFi card manufacture and see if the have a Windows 2008 64Bit (Not Likly) driver for it.  Otherwise the Windows 7 (64 Bit) will work fine.

     

     

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    Friday, April 30, 2010 5:55 PM
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    The Public Beta only supports a single network card at the time.  I think you probably want this to be wired.  We are working in the RTM release to be able to have multiple network cards, where one of them can be a Wifi Address.
     
    You may wonder why I say it only supports one network card.  This is because we can only point the router port to one IP address on the internal LAN, thus making it hard to have the Remote Access site available on both network cards. 
     
    I’d wait for the next beta/RC to try these scenarios... but if you aren’t afraid of a re-install, have at it with your single nic!
     
    Sean
     
    This post is "AS IS" and confers no rights.
     
    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:cf213571-9e1c-4dbb-8ec5-448d2b2e6915...

    Vail will not support (in the sense of "not a good idea" not "won't work period") being attached to your network via a wireless LAN connection. This is unchanged from V1. You can try installing appropriate drivers for your wireless NIC, but I don't promise anything.

    You can connect your clients wirelessly, and they'll back up and communicate with your server. However, you will be unable to restore wirelessly unless you have no security on your wireless network. This is also unchanged from V1 (and wireless restore is unsupported even if your network is wide open).

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)

    Hi Sean,

    A question about the beta only supporting 1 nic.  I'm about to install Vail this weekend in a test environment and test iSCSI disk integration.  With only one nic regular traffic AND iSCSI traffic would be on the same link which is not the case in my environment.  Am I stuck waiting for the next version of Vail that is released to test or if I hack around will I get iSCSI working on a second nic link?

     

    thanks,

    obi

    Friday, April 30, 2010 7:07 PM
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    You can try whatever you want with your beta version of Vail.  We just haven’t tested and have no steps to help you along the way with this version.
     
    Good luck!
       Sean
     
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    "obiwan07" wrote in message news:df60163d-44f5-41c5-8b11-b61fce280da3...
    The Public Beta only supports a single network card at the time.  I think you probably want this to be wired.  We are working in the RTM release to be able to have multiple network cards, where one of them can be a Wifi Address.
     
    You may wonder why I say it only supports one network card.  This is because we can only point the router port to one IP address on the internal LAN, thus making it hard to have the Remote Access site available on both network cards.
     
    I’d wait for the next beta/RC to try these scenarios... but if you aren’t afraid of a re-install, have at it with your single nic!
     
    Sean
     
    This post is "AS IS" and confers no rights.
     
    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:cf213571-9e1c-4dbb-8ec5-448d2b2e6915...

    Vail will not support (in the sense of "not a good idea" not "won't work period") being attached to your network via a wireless LAN connection. This is unchanged from V1. You can try installing appropriate drivers for your wireless NIC, but I don't promise anything.

    You can connect your clients wirelessly, and they'll back up and communicate with your server. However, you will be unable to restore wirelessly unless you have no security on your wireless network. This is also unchanged from V1 (and wireless restore is unsupported even if your network is wide open).

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)

    Hi Sean,

    A question about the beta only supporting 1 nic.  I'm about to install Vail this weekend in a test environment and test iSCSI disk integration.  With only one nic regular traffic AND iSCSI traffic would be on the same link which is not the case in my environment.  Am I stuck waiting for the next version of Vail that is released to test or if I hack around will I get iSCSI working on a second nic link?

     

    thanks,

    obi

    Friday, April 30, 2010 9:33 PM
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    I have to say I am VERY pee'd off with what I have just found out.

    Remember that Microsoft would like servers secure well I have just noticed that WPA2 does not work in Vail, WPA does not work in Vail, the most secure way Vail will connect wirelessly is using 64bit WEP.

    I know this is a Beta but that is shocking.  Is it enough to post this bug here or should I also forward this information elsewhere?

    Thanks

    Friday, April 30, 2010 10:55 PM
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    Post a bug on Connect . I think it's going to be a driver issue, however, i.e. external to Windows Home Server.

    Also, note that a wireless connection is inherently less secure than a wired connection.

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Friday, April 30, 2010 11:44 PM
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    did you go to Server Manager (in Administrator Tools)/Features branch and click
    on Add Features? Click and tick the check box for Wireless LAN Service. Complete
    the installation wizard to install wireless support. You should get the Windows
    7 x64 signed driver for your wireless NIC and install that. What NIC are you
    trying to use?
     
    On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:55:52 +0000, Coleburg76 wrote:
     
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    >I have to say I am VERY pee'd off with what I have just found out.
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    >Remember that Microsoft would like servers secure well I have just noticed that WPA2 does not work in Vail, WPA does not work in Vail, the most secure way Vail will connect wirelessly is using 64bit WEP.
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    >I know this is a Beta but that is shocking. Is it enough to post this bug here or should I also forward this information elsewhere?
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    >Thanks
     
    Barb Bowman www.digitalmediaphile.com
    Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:11 AM
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    Wireless is a fact of life. With the 4x4 802.11n bridges coming later this year
    (they plug into the Ethernet port - think gaming adapter) there will be a lot
    more high end folks using WiFi for Home Servers and other devices because they
    will "perform" more like a wired connection than ever before. As long as you use
    WPA2-AES, you should be secure.
     
    On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:44:14 +0000, Ken Warren wrote:
     
    >Also, note that a wireless connection is inherently less secure than a wired connection.
     
    Barb Bowman www.digitalmediaphile.com
    Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:14 AM
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    Please do post a bug on Connect, there shouldn’t be any difference between what Windows 7 supports, and Vail here.
     
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    "Ken Warren" wrote in message news:00cd4d5a-92a8-4012-8efd-4499996de668...

    Post a bug on Connect . I think it's going to be a driver issue, however, i.e. external to Windows Home Server.

    Also, note that a wireless connection is inherently less secure than a wired connection.

    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Saturday, May 1, 2010 4:08 PM
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