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  • Very excited about windows 8 and plan on putting the developer build on my netbook.  When will WHS 2011 support Windows 8 as a client and be able to back it up.  What does it do if I try to install the software on it. I would hope the WHS team is thinking of this. 

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:36 AM

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  • Let's separate "supported" vs "unsupported", in the context of WHS, from "released" code and "unreleased" code:

    "Supported" for WHS means they've gone to some degree of design and test effort to make something work in most cases and to be reasonably sure it actually does. It may or may not actually work. If you find a high impact problem that few others have found, they will not provide any method for you to tell them directly about it--since WHS has no end user support channel--and won't fix it unless they replace the code the bug is in with newer code. If you find a high impact problem that lots of others find and you all collectively somehow bring it to their attention, they may or may not fix it now or in some future release.

    "Unsupported" for WHS means they have no clue if it works or not and probably haven't spent any effort directly aimed to assure it does. It may or may not actually work. No matter how many people find a high impact problem and somehow bring it to their attention, they probably won't fix it now or in some future release unless by accidental side effect of working on related code.

    "Released" means that they've gone to a lot of effort to reduce the number of high impact/high probability of occurence problems to a level they consider acceptable.  If you encounter one of the remaining high impact problems, see above re. support. You will have to bear 100% of the impact at your own risk. It also means any function and feature in the code is relatively unlikely to disappear in a maintenance release, but beyond that all bets are off.

    "Unreleased" means it still has a potentially very large number of high impact/high probability of occurence problems, many of which nobody has even had a chance to run across yet. If you encounter one of these high impact defects, see "unsupported" above re. support, but note that they may be slightly more receptive to actually hearing about your problem. You will have to bear 100% of the impact at your own risk. It also means any function and feature in the code, including it working correctly, may disappear at any time.

    • Marked as answer by Ken Warren Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:08 AM
    Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:49 AM
  • Officially, sometime after Windows 8 is released, of course. You'll probably see unofficial support before that point, however.

    I would recommend strongly against committing anything crucial to a configuration that involves beta versions of operating systems, and very strongly against committing anything crucial to a multiple beta situation, such as will exist prior to the release of both Windows 8 and a Windows Home Server connector for it.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    • Marked as answer by Ken Warren Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:27 AM
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:27 AM

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  • Officially, sometime after Windows 8 is released, of course. You'll probably see unofficial support before that point, however.

    I would recommend strongly against committing anything crucial to a configuration that involves beta versions of operating systems, and very strongly against committing anything crucial to a multiple beta situation, such as will exist prior to the release of both Windows 8 and a Windows Home Server connector for it.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    • Marked as answer by Ken Warren Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:27 AM
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:27 AM
  • Microsoft unveiled Windows Developer Preview codename Windows 8. It is available for download with a Windows Live account. I have downloaded WDP and installed it on a test computer. First thing I've done is connect it to my WHS v1 and installed the connector. It installed without any issue and first backup succeded. In  the computer tab of WHS, it is identified as its named Windows Developer Preview. So, if it is "working" with WHS v1 I can't see why it would not "work" with WHS 2011. Have you tried to install the connector on it. If not, then you should give it a try.

    Claude


    • Proposed as answer by Claude Dorion Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:49 PM
    • Edited by Claude Dorion Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:20 PM Changed "supported with work"
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 5:48 PM
  • So, if it is supported by WHS v1 I can't see why it is not supported by WHS 2011. Have you tried to install the connector on it. If not, then you should give it a try.

    Apparently working and "supported" are two totally different things!

    Phil P.S. If you find my comment helpful or if it answers your question, please mark it as such.
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:03 PM
  • Just to be clear:

    Works = you can install the connector (on your own), it seems to do all the right things at the right times, etc. You rely on it "at your own risk", and it may stop working if Microsoft makes changes in Windows 8.

    Supported = Microsoft has tested this scenario extensively, as is appropriate (it is a whole new version of your desktop OS, after all). Then they've officially "blessed" it. Probably it also means that the client tool integrates fully with the Windows 8 desktop. (Which is certainly not the case right now.)

    What I know "works" today:

    • You can install the connector (V1 or 2011) on Windows 8.
    • You can back up Windows 8 to 2011.
    • You can restore single files from 2011.
    • You can perform a successful "bare metal" restore from 2011.

    So go ahead and experiment with it, but don't rely on it for anything important.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:16 PM
  • Let's separate "supported" vs "unsupported", in the context of WHS, from "released" code and "unreleased" code:

    "Supported" for WHS means they've gone to some degree of design and test effort to make something work in most cases and to be reasonably sure it actually does. It may or may not actually work. If you find a high impact problem that few others have found, they will not provide any method for you to tell them directly about it--since WHS has no end user support channel--and won't fix it unless they replace the code the bug is in with newer code. If you find a high impact problem that lots of others find and you all collectively somehow bring it to their attention, they may or may not fix it now or in some future release.

    "Unsupported" for WHS means they have no clue if it works or not and probably haven't spent any effort directly aimed to assure it does. It may or may not actually work. No matter how many people find a high impact problem and somehow bring it to their attention, they probably won't fix it now or in some future release unless by accidental side effect of working on related code.

    "Released" means that they've gone to a lot of effort to reduce the number of high impact/high probability of occurence problems to a level they consider acceptable.  If you encounter one of the remaining high impact problems, see above re. support. You will have to bear 100% of the impact at your own risk. It also means any function and feature in the code is relatively unlikely to disappear in a maintenance release, but beyond that all bets are off.

    "Unreleased" means it still has a potentially very large number of high impact/high probability of occurence problems, many of which nobody has even had a chance to run across yet. If you encounter one of these high impact defects, see "unsupported" above re. support, but note that they may be slightly more receptive to actually hearing about your problem. You will have to bear 100% of the impact at your own risk. It also means any function and feature in the code, including it working correctly, may disappear at any time.

    • Marked as answer by Ken Warren Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:08 AM
    Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:49 AM
  • Well said, Dick. Unfortunately. 

    One thing, though: the team does want to hear about bugs, and they want to hear about product suggestions too. This lets them triage high impact issues appropriately.

    The reporting tool to use is Connect. Unfortunately, it functions as a very large black hole into which bug reports vanish as far as the public is concerned. No matter how much I push for better responsiveness, Microsoft will always slip back to not acknowledging reports on Connect sooner or later.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:14 AM
  • Hi everyone, sorry for my mistake... Of course when you have the right definition of "supported", it is obvious for me that I wanted to say "work". My apologies to everyone here for such a big wave for my wrong word... But now, like many people here I've learned the right terms.

    Thanks everyone for clarification,

    Claude

    Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:18 PM
  • I have installed W8 on a notebook

    I have loaded the WHS v1 connector

    I am able to acecss all WHS media successfully using WMP on W8

    I have completed a full backup of W8

    My only issues to date are I get a 'No Spyware protection' and 'Check your anti virus software status' messages on the WHS console

    I have not loaded any virus software but i have enabled BitDefender and Windows Firewall.

    Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:56 AM
  • On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:56:14 +0000, TripleFun wrote:

    My only issues to date are I get a 'No Spyware protection' and 'Check your anti virus software status' messages on the WHS console

    I have not loaded any virus software but i have enabled BitDefender and Windows Firewall.

    This obviously isn't supported, and I high;y doubt you're ever going to see
    official support for Windows 8 under WHS V1. Regarding A/V on the client,
    in Windows 8, Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender have been
    merged and "renamed" to Windows Defender and it is installed and running by
    default. Just type Windows Defender on the Start screen.


    Paul Adare
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    http://www.identit.ca
    Closed loop: A method of execution no longer in vogue except in Iran.

    Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:16 PM
  • After five days of operation, there have been no issues evident with WHS2011 and Windows Developer Preview.
    Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:14 PM
  • Are there any news regarding official support :) I would love to upgrade, but would hate it if backups and media access wouldn't anymore work properly.

    But so far the posts from Ken and Darren sound promising :)

    Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:52 PM
  • Ken it is 12/10/2012.  I installed Windows 8 Pro on my Intel Core I7-920 system.  I have an HP Smart Media server running WHS 2011.  All works fine with Windows 7 Pro.  But when I try to install the WHS 2011 connector software on my Windows 8 Pro system, it fails. due to unexpected error.  Then rolls back the changes.  I did install the Windows Media Center Pro free package, Microsoft allows temporarily.


    Del Thibodeaux

    Monday, December 10, 2012 3:16 PM
  • Ken it is 12/10/2012.  I installed Windows 8 Pro on my Intel Core I7-920 system.  I have an HP Smart Media server running WHS 2011.  All works fine with Windows 7 Pro.  But when I try to install the WHS 2011 connector software on my Windows 8 Pro system, it fails. due to unexpected error.  Then rolls back the changes.  I did install the Windows Media Center Pro free package, Microsoft allows temporarily.


    Del Thibodeaux

    And I am in the same scenario you are-any attempt to get WHS 2011 connector installed in Win8 Pro is met with unknown failure. And that's after recycling my WHS2011 to pick up the latest patches.  And what's really annoying about this is the fact that no diagnostic code from the install is being shown.  


    Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:34 PM
  • Just to be clear:

    Works = you can install the connector (on your own), it seems to do all the right things at the right times, etc. You rely on it "at your own risk", and it may stop working if Microsoft makes changes in Windows 8.

    Supported = Microsoft has tested this scenario extensively, as is appropriate (it is a whole new version of your desktop OS, after all). Then they've officially "blessed" it. Probably it also means that the client tool integrates fully with the Windows 8 desktop. (Which is certainly not the case right now.)

    What I know "works" today:

    • You can install the connector (V1 or 2011) on Windows 8.
    • You can back up Windows 8 to 2011.
    • You can restore single files from 2011.
    • You can perform a successful "bare metal" restore from 2011.

    So go ahead and experiment with it, but don't rely on it for anything important.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)

    It doesn't work at all. Windows 8 conneting to WHS 2011.

    Please, do not work with the test versions. The original versions do not connect...

    Is there a sollution.

    Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:53 PM
  • Hi josvdsanden

    I updated my Win7 to Win8 and I beleive I had to reinstall the WHS 2011 Client after that. But it is now working absolutely fine.

    Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:35 PM