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Recovery CD and new P55 motherboards RRS feed

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  • I am in the midst of building a NEW I7 860 computer to take over duties as my primary system. With issues of a failing video card I had a situation where  needed to rebuild my PC yet a 3rd time. Luckily I had backed up my last attempt.

    I threw in my trusty Recovery CD.... booted to it and it could not see the network. I watched it process and as it went through the 2nd stage process where it checks drivers and all. the network lights which had been flashing all this time - STOPPED. It could not see or use the network. I did this 3- 4 times to confirm. Its a New P55 motherboard.

    Luckily, i am losing only an 1 hr of setup and I proceeded to do clean install again without any problems.

    But this has me worried... if I get a real failure.. with I have to have at the ready a USB stick with drivers to use? This was very disconserting to see what worked like a charm for a year... fail on Brand new hardware.
    Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:59 PM

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  • I am in the midst of building a NEW I7 860 computer to take over duties as my primary system. With issues of a failing video card I had a situation where  needed to rebuild my PC yet a 3rd time. Luckily I had backed up my last attempt.

    I threw in my trusty Recovery CD.... booted to it and it could not see the network. I watched it process and as it went through the 2nd stage process where it checks drivers and all. the network lights which had been flashing all this time - STOPPED. It could not see or use the network. I did this 3- 4 times to confirm. Its a New P55 motherboard.

    Luckily, i am losing only an 1 hr of setup and I proceeded to do clean install again without any problems.

    But this has me worried... if I get a real failure.. with I have to have at the ready a USB stick with drivers to use? This was very disconserting to see what worked like a charm for a year... fail on Brand new hardware.

    Yes, it's quite possible you would need to include drivers manually for certain hardware devices (the NIC is one of them).  The help file in the WHS Console tells you how to do that.
    Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:26 PM
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  • I kinda suspected that. I guess is I should prepare that now . Always best to have it done before the problem. In one way it was lucky I tried that recovery. If it had been an emergency when I needed to get the restore ASAP, it would have been bad.

    Best to have those drivers on a USB stick early and store with my Recovery CD.

    I suspect that when the final release of the patch for WHS for Windows 7 comes out, we may have some of those may be added as a lot of the I5 and I7 motherboards are being released to catch the Windows 7 wave as it builds.
    • Proposed as answer by fwki Monday, September 14, 2009 11:53 PM
    Monday, September 14, 2009 2:22 AM
  • I had a similar problem with a fairly new (P45) Gigabyte board.  The MS dual boot restore cd has sorrry driver support. I found this link from WeGotServed http://xfiles.koryian.net/2009/08/17/client-restore-disk-v1-1/#more-17 . If MS was really supporting this, we'd have a new restore cd image monthly, instead kudos to these guys.  I burned the iso image of Client Restore Disk v1.1 and had no problems restoring.  Let's hit up WindowsConnect and try to get them some $$ support for hosting fees.  They are actively adding drivers, all very useful with win7 coming.  Give it  try, but no guarantees because using this image may put you into the dreaded "Unsupported Mode". 

    edit typo
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:07 AM
  • Frankly, suggesting Microsoft support xfiles, even facetiously, seems a little, umm naïve. Though they do, in fact, provide a certain amount of support, in a way. Drashna is a Microsoft MVP for the Windows Home Server product. :)

    As for drivers, I happen to agree that it would be great if Microsoft would update the Restore CD with new drivers. I understand why they don't, though; it's based on WinPE 2.0, the Vista PE, and it's sealed, so changing the package would be a huge undertaking. Probably Microsoft will need to come up with a whole new Restore CD-like scheme to do that. And I certainly don't expect that before Vail is released.

    My own pet peeve is that real x64 network drivers (not all x64 drivers are actually 64 bit...) don't work, by the way...


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:03 PM
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  • Well I copied the Latest drivers to a USB drive for when I need in future. However it seems to me, having to do that might not be too intuitive for most and the WHS is marked as a "Non-technical" solution to backup and restores. In the last two years we have been afirly stable re hardware and drivers so did not affect a lot of people.

    It needs a better solution and support methodology from Microsoft. Especially since we just starting to release upon the world Windows 7 and a whole plethora of new hardware with lots of potential drivers that won't be on the Restore CD. The issues will expand to a whole range of new users with new shiny hardware and that terrified look when the CD restore does not work but asks for some drivers... (they say I am not in my car so I am not driver now --- could not resist).

    Hopefully we get better solution as I really am a pusher of the WHS concept for last 2 years and hope that it expands more and more.
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:23 PM
  • Well I copied the Latest drivers to a USB drive for when I need in future. However it seems to me, having to do that might not be too intuitive for most ...
    It's spelled out (quite explicitly) in the help, under "Where can I find drivers for my hardware?" This will work with XP, Vista, and Windows 7 drivers.



    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:56 PM
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  • I have run into the same problem with a pretty new Nvidia based 740g motherboard in my HTPC machine. When booting from the restore disk with this XpMCE05 machine, it never finds the server. I can make backups fine while its running windows through the console and it accesses the shares just fine. Sometimes its just as easy to remove that drive and do the boot-restore in another machine, just make sure you choose the right computer to restore from the drop-down menu.
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:44 PM
  • I suspect many people on these forums can work out a solution when required as you did. There is that built in solution that Ken Warren identified. I am going with that. But as I said, that may be much more complicated than non-technical users might expect.

    Currently I have been bragging to my technical friends who are WHS-less that my restore procedure is " plug in dvd - boot off it, choice the backup, hit start and the GO and WATCH TV). Obviously their restore procedure is infinitely more complicated if even available.  The WHS restore has now become more complicated and I do think Microsoft needs to address this through "Updates" to maintain the ease of restore.
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:06 PM
  • ...My own pet peeve is that real x64 network drivers (not all x64 drivers are actually 64 bit...) don't work, by the way...



    Ruh roh....this could complicate my October 22 plans for a x64 sweep across the fleet.  Maybe Drashna can help me out.  I understand why MS doesn't keep up with critical software for use on client machines....bigger fish to fry.  But like Valzic, I am guilty of some misplaced bragging too.  The whole flash drive thing didn't work for me because of the Realtek driver issue wherein WinPE believed it already had the correct driver and wouldn't let me install the correct one.  So it was either pop in an Intel NIC or go the xfiles route.
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:31 PM