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  • Hello Guys,

    I'm looking to upgrade my MCSE: Server Infrastructure certification in Server 2012 to MCSE: Server Infrastructure in Server 2016.

    Is there an upgrade course which touches on only all the new technologies in Server 2016 and is there an exam?

    I haven't been able to see anything available online as of yet in regards to an upgrade path.

    Regards,

    Clint


    Clint Boessen MVP - Exchange Server, MCSE, MCITPx6, Dip Network Engineering

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    Monday, August 21, 2017 6:47 AM

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  • Hi Clint,

    the MCSE 2016 infrastrcture no more exists. It is now splitted in two MCSE : 

    Both requiered some knowledge around Azure and Hyper-V (including SCVMM).

    To get in, you need to gain MCSA Windows Server 2016 or MCSA Cloud Platform or MCSA Linux on Azure or MCSA Windows Server 2012 (you may have this one already). Once fullfilled, select one the exam you wish to pass from the list i have shared with you upper : they will also include training materials if any.

    cheers.


    Monday, August 21, 2017 6:55 AM
  • That's an inheritance : your previous MCSA/E drive you to be legitimate for those certification. Same for me :) 

    Anyway however, it's time limited, hence you'll get to repass the exam one day.

    Monday, August 21, 2017 9:05 AM

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  • Hi Clint,

    the MCSE 2016 infrastrcture no more exists. It is now splitted in two MCSE : 

    Both requiered some knowledge around Azure and Hyper-V (including SCVMM).

    To get in, you need to gain MCSA Windows Server 2016 or MCSA Cloud Platform or MCSA Linux on Azure or MCSA Windows Server 2012 (you may have this one already). Once fullfilled, select one the exam you wish to pass from the list i have shared with you upper : they will also include training materials if any.

    cheers.


    Monday, August 21, 2017 6:55 AM
  • They make it confusing!

    I already have MCSE Productivity and MCSE Platform and Infrastructure on my transcript.

    I haven't done any of the 2016 exams though...

    Regards,


    Clint Boessen MVP - Exchange Server, MCSE, MCITPx6, Dip Network Engineering

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    Monday, August 21, 2017 7:12 AM
  • That's an inheritance : your previous MCSA/E drive you to be legitimate for those certification. Same for me :) 

    Anyway however, it's time limited, hence you'll get to repass the exam one day.

    Monday, August 21, 2017 9:05 AM
  • Just my two sense....

    There is 0 reason for making certifications time limited.

    As Microsoft release new products every few years and retire old products, people already had to keep recertifying to keep up to speed with the latest technologies.

    I was an MCSE in 2003, then I upgraded to MCITP:EA, then to MCSE Server Infrastructure 2012, now I want to upgrade again.  If I didn't certify in the latest technologies, I'd still only be MCSE 2003 which is useless now!

    I finished my MCSE Server Infrastructure in 2015, now there is zero incentive to begin learning the new technologies in Server 2016 from a certification perspective, and no "upgrade" course where I can only get the low down on what's new in Server 2016.

    I will still be upskilling - as a consultant I need to be up to speed with latest and greatest.

    It just doesn't make sense what the Microsoft Learning team have done.

    Regards,


    Clint Boessen MVP - Exchange Server, MCSE, MCITPx6, Dip Network Engineering

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    Monday, August 21, 2017 9:11 AM
  • That's done to make sense when you're targeting a job : time limited means you get recertified by M$ as still skilled for this product/technology. 

    As everyone nowaday, you'll get to leverage your skills and you may at anytime change your carreer : being a good skilled Active Directory Expert doesn't mean you'll be one for life as you can change your mind and move to a network expert or a SharePoint Expert. 

    I was MCT two years ago : build was in progress for training over 2016 but from now on Microsoft Virtual Academy is the method used by M$ to train you (being trained cost a lot). It doesn't mean that Training session will die, but it make sense as self leveraging our skills cost less time and money.

    Regarding MCSE : it is expected from the audience that you're skilled in a daily job around the technology. there will never be any training to be MCSE as it was for 2003. MCSA means now "you get the theorical knowledge" and MCSE means "you get the field experience on this product".


    Monday, August 21, 2017 9:25 AM
  • Thankyou for your valued input.

    Back to my original objective, for people that hold an MCSE: Server Infrastructure and want to upskill and understand the latest technologies in Server 2016, what Microsoft certification path should they follow?


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    Monday, August 21, 2017 9:28 AM
  • I think you should give a start here :

    https://mva.microsoft.com/training-topics/server-infrastructure#!prod=Windows%20Server&prodv=Windows%20Server%202016&jobf=IT%20Pros$Student%20IT%20Professional

    Next you can go through training for 70410, 70411 and 70412 (there are book for self studying). this will bring you the MCSA knowledge. then, depending on your needs, you can pursue with another training that helps for MCSE : 70413 (Designing and Implementing a Server Infrastructure) 70414 (Implementing an Advanced Server Infrastructure) is a good start.

    PS : I notice that passing those exams based on the training material is possible. Hence forgot my previous comment about training for MCSE, I was wrong. However, my own expériences let me know that MCSE is not only studying related : many questions are not in the book :)

    Monday, August 21, 2017 11:03 AM
  • I have already done 70-413 and 70-414 but it did not contain any of the Server 2016 content when I sat them.  I also did 70-410, 70-411 and 70-412 which were all bundled together in my upgrade exam 70-417.

    See below in my transcript.

    So what your saying is I need to re-sit the same Exams I have already passed to scrape through them for the new Server 2016 content?

    Do you get what I'm confused about now?  There is no upgrade path and this recertification model does not make sense.


    Clint Boessen MVP - Exchange Server, MCSE, MCITPx6, Dip Network Engineering

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    Monday, August 21, 2017 12:46 PM
  • Don't worry about the exams : what you needs is the training material to set your skills up (or ensure you did not forget anything). As a target, get a look to all others MCSE you can devellop your skills on and set them as a new target :)


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    Monday, August 21, 2017 12:55 PM