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Any chance of built-in image posting? User feedback is scathing RRS feed

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  • This is a feature that has been noticably absent for a long time and really begs some  revisiting as to the reasons for its omission.  Just look at the response from a somewhat new forum user when told to follow the instructions posted by another user (it suggests using a 3rd party site to house the images then manually insert the HTML code)... http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winformssetup/thread/99d263b2-02f3-43ca-9418-434411330a7e/#4b26c8a7-6df6-472d-b0c4-9581d0fed971

     All due respect, for a site run by MSDN developers the steps offered to place an attachment is shamefully absurd. Many forum sites devopled by high school kids have utilities to attached files including images, code and such. I refuse to use a third party site and go through unnecesarily multiple steps just to attach a form to my post. There is not even a spell checker for these posts. MS could use some programmers to make these forum sites at least as good as others. It is a lot easier to post in these forums using Google Forums than MSDN's own!

    Seriously, does anyone know what the compelling reason is to leave this feature out?  Its a bit embarrasing. (BTW:  He's got a good point about the spell checker too!)

    • Edited by Dig-Boy Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:37 AM
    Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:41 PM

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  • If you want to do spell checking you probably want to install an extension on your browser so you can check every web site, not on a single web site.

    As for images, I would rather not see images in posts and force the user to use links instead. Not everyone have broadband/WIFI, give the 56K MODEMers/3Gers a choice to read the post.



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  • Fair enough.  I'd still like to know the "official" reason behind the feature's absence.

    As for the dial-uppers, I question whether catering to the lowest common denominator is the best approach.  Arguably it punishes the rest of the community and leaves a potentially siginificant number of users with the feeling that these forums are not up to snuff with other similar forums.  Is that important to MS?  Maybe not since the forums seem to be sucessful by a volume and quality perspective.

    I'm curious though...  does having the user provide a link allow the 56K folk to not load the images?  Or is your argument that by forcing people to turn to hacks that this serves as a bar to the vast majority of users?

    Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:55 PM
  • I was just over at the ASP.NET forum...  they have built-in image insertion.  It would seem that they have overcome the concern about alienating the dial-uppers.

    BTW:  This is also a *bump* in case anyone running the forums missed this thread originally ;)

    Friday, December 31, 2010 12:48 PM
  • > I was just over at the ASP.NET forum...  they have built-in image insertion.  It would seem that they have overcome the concern about alienating the dial-uppers.

    In the pre-SharePoint 2010 forums, I always request people who post images to remove them and to instead provide a URL to a site where they are located.

    There *are* people on slow lines and it is always going to be unfair to them to have automatically loaded images use up their time unnecessarily. These days there are many free anonymous-access locations where the images can be stored so that they are still available *to people who want to see them*. In most cases a good description of the problem is enough but a URL in addition to that can be useful - just dont make everyone see it.

     


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    Sunday, January 2, 2011 9:11 PM
  • I am not making everyone see them.  There will always be minority positions on issues like this and I am not entirely unaffected by that need.  Rather, I am asking some pointed questions in the hope of finding an answer.  If it is the explicit opinion of the crew managing this forum that they are assisting those with less than optimal connection speeds then I will not argue with it (though I might be a little dissapointed in a selfish manner).  I want to know what the position is of MS on this matter.  Face it, almost all other forums do allow it and I want to know what the reason is for it.  This was never an argument against dial-uppers.
    Sunday, January 2, 2011 10:00 PM
  • Hello Sheng,

         You do not have to see the attachement. But you can see an icon, a button, or a link to open it if you want to. A picture is worth 1000 words (possibly a Chinese proverb). They could be very useful. 

     

    Tuesday, January 4, 2011 12:31 AM
  • Sheng you got it wrong again. I am deliberately using IE8 so that I can get full functionality (!) of this MS site. Under Firefox or Chrome, I get spellchecking by default. So there is no problem. If IE does not provides this feature, again it is a MS problem. If MSDN forum programmers did not include it, it is yet another problem. As I said before I can get to MSDN forums from Google forums with better features. But wouldn't that be shameful for MS? I beleive, rather than definding the lack of features I mentioned, you better join the crowd to get them added.

    Tuesday, January 4, 2011 12:42 AM
  • Yes. But all these measures could be built into the design of the site. When a user attaches a file using a Load button, the file can be directed and uploaded anywhere convenient. The site could restrict the size of the file for uploading. It could only be seen when the person who wants to reply click on the link etc. etc.
    Tuesday, January 4, 2011 12:49 AM
  • No, I got spellcheck in IE too, via a free download. You don't have to rely on the browser for spellchecking. Just search "IE spell check" and choose a plugin.

    I doubt other browsers can bundle spellchecking when they have 90% market share.



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  • I've tried to install IESpell. However, I don't see it in the Tools menu or as a button. The only way to get it is by using right-click. It also doesn't hightlight misspelled words as Google Chrome does. It will be much more convenient to have it already in the browser rather than needing to download a plug-in which doesn't even work by itself.

    I un-installed it. It didn't work. Can you recommend a good one that works exactly like the one in GC?


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