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  • Hi, I have a Dell XPS I purchased a few months ago directly from Dell, and Windows 7 Ultimate was preloaded by Dell, so I have to think it's genuine.  But now I get the message that it's not genuine.  I've tried to download the validation software, but get the message "Update Installation failed Error Info:  0x8007002"  Windows shows as activated in my system properties box, but I am unable to validate either through the Microsoft website or via the telephone.  I've downloaded the MGA Diag software and the results are below.  Please help! 

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-X92GV-V7DCV-P4K27
    Windows Product Key Hash: aU2z1/fnhnLHmhBm699qYZT2E6s=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-OEM-8992662-00400
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
    ID: {95386E07-40C8-41A2-9D69-4A811941952F}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 77F760FE-153-80070002_7E90FEE8-175-80070002_025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{37987AD1-2C72-457C-96DC-EFC8680AA878}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-P4K27</PKey><PID>00426-OEM-8992662-00400</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2476841681-2632566720-1916553026</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>XPS 8300  </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>A06</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="6"/><Date>20111017000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>E4DE3807018400FE</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Mountain Standard Time(GMT-07:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
    Activation ID: 7cfd4696-69a9-4af7-af36-ff3d12b6b6c8
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00426-00178-926-600400-02-1033-7601.0000-0542012
    Installation ID: 017083600513650702056104163542985516147232952915297765
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: P4K27
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 2
    Trusted time: 6/4/2012 11:10:45 AM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 6:2:2012 09:50
    ActiveX: Not Registered - 0x8007007e
    Admin Service: Not Registered - 0x80029c4a
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: KAAAAAEAAAABAAEAAQABAAAAAAABAAEAHKIsCX6Qoib4PVQOulkucw==

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC   DELL    FX09  
      FACP   DELL    FX09  
      HPET   DELL  FX09
      MCFG   DELL  FX09
      SSDT   AMICPU  PROC
      SLIC   DELL    FX09  
      OSFR   DELL    FX09  

    Monday, June 4, 2012 5:16 PM

Answers

  • Do not use registry cleaners.  The manufacturer's of these products would have you believe that registries need cleaning.  They do not.  The registry is a database so unused (orphaned) entries left behind by installers and such are never accessed again anyway.  Back in Windows 95 days when disk space was tight registry cleaning was used to compact the registry and save space.  But registry entries only take a few bytes each so space saved by cleaning is now insignificant.  The problem with cleaners is that they can misidentify entries and delete some still needed.  Why do you think Microsoft does not provide a registry cleaning function in their disk cleanup tool?  It surely isn't because they don't know how.  It is because they can be harmful and no one knows how to guarantee 100% safety.

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:34 PM
    Answerer

All replies

  • License Status: Licensed

    Windows is licensed.  I see no errors.

    Was the message showing at the time you ran the MGADiag tool?  Did it go away after you ran the tool?  If the message is not showing wait until it returns and then run the tool. 

    The tool has some repairative capabilities so just running it can sometimes remove the issue.  Also, programs competing for resources can sometimes block a periodic check by the Windows Activation Technology.


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Monday, June 4, 2012 6:32 PM
    Answerer
  • Good to hear there are no obvious errors.  I haven't seen the "not genuine" message appear for a while, so hopefully some snafu has been fixed.  I am still unable to install the WindowsActivationUpdate.exe file to valid windows.  Am still getting the same error message as originally.  Is this a problem or should I just leave well enough alone and hope that Windows can automatically verify itself next time it tries?  I really appreciate the help.  I'm a writer not a tech so this stuff is challenging for me. :)
    Monday, June 4, 2012 8:11 PM
  • Okay, an update.  I got the lWindows not genuine' window again, several hours after I ran the MGADiagtool, so nothing has been solved.  What's the next step?  Thanks in advance.
    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:48 AM
  • As I suggested above, run the MGADiag tool while the message is showing.

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:53 AM
    Answerer
  • I ran the MGADiag tool when the message reappeared.  The data now shows 'Genuine' but I still can't install the WindowsActivationUpdate.exe file.  Here's the second round of data. 

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0019.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0

    Cached Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-X92GV-V7DCV-P4K27
    Windows Product Key Hash: aU2z1/fnhnLHmhBm699qYZT2E6s=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-OEM-8992662-00400
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
    ID: {5114CC03-6EBF-4841-AB02-D39EA9A4EBA6}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    WGA Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    WGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 77F760FE-153-80070002_7E90FEE8-175-80070002_025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{E76259CE-C668-473C-993A-7259D26CC342}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0019.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-P4K27</PKey><PID>00426-OEM-8992662-00400</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2476841681-2632566720-1916553026</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>XPS 8300  </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>A06</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="6"/><Date>20111017000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>E4DE3807018400FE</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Mountain Standard Time(GMT-07:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
    Activation ID: 7cfd4696-69a9-4af7-af36-ff3d12b6b6c8
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00426-00178-926-600400-02-1033-7601.0000-0542012
    Installation ID: 017083600513650702056104163542985516147232952915297765
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: P4K27
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 2
    Trusted time: 6/4/2012 8:31:28 PM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x8004FE21
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000006
    Event Time Stamp: 6:2:2012 09:50
    WAT Activex: Not Registered - 0x8007007e
    WAT Admin Service: Not Registered - 0x80029c4a

    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: KAAAAAEAAAABAAEAAQABAAAAAAABAAEAHKIsCX6Qoib4PVQOulkucw==

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC   DELL    FX09  
      FACP   DELL    FX09  
      HPET   DELL  FX09
      MCFG   DELL  FX09
      SSDT   AMICPU  PROC
      SLIC   DELL    FX09  
      OSFR   DELL    FX09  

    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:35 AM
  • Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:58 AM
    Moderator
  • "BJJ6212" wrote in message news:5a94cef0-fefd-492d-bbdb-e0b91710ab70...

    I ran the MGADiag tool when the message reappeared.  The data now shows 'Genuine' but I still can't install the WindowsActivationUpdate.exe file.  Here's the second round of data. 

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0019.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0

    Cached Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-X92GV-V7DCV-P4K27
    Windows Product Key Hash: aU2z1/fnhnLHmhBm699qYZT2E6s=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-OEM-8992662-00400
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x8004FE21
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000006
    Event Time Stamp: 6:2:2012 09:50
    WAT Activex: Not Registered - 0x8007007e
    WAT Admin Service: Not Registered - 0x80029c4a

     

     
     
    Have you been using a registry cleaner of some kind??
     
    Please try first uninstalling the WAT Update KB971033 from Installed Updates, and then reinstalling it using the download from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971033
     
    The post back with a new MGADiag report.

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:21 AM
    Moderator
  • Per Carey's suggestion, I used the diagnostic site and passed all tests.

    I uninstalled and reinstalled the KB871033 file and finally was able to validate my pc using the Microsoft Validate Now button.  So I think the issue may be resolved.  Below is a new MGDADiag report after doing the reinstall.  Also, I have used PC Internet Security's Registry cleaner, last time was perhaps 6 weeks ago.  Should I not be using this product -- or is there a better one that Microsoft recommends?    Thank you.

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0019.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0

    Cached Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-X92GV-V7DCV-P4K27
    Windows Product Key Hash: aU2z1/fnhnLHmhBm699qYZT2E6s=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-OEM-8992662-00400
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
    ID: {CA999161-69DD-4A1C-BA35-1A4A6386014B}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    WGA Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    WGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 77F760FE-153-80070002_7E90FEE8-175-80070002_025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{40122045-037A-4081-BF38-FAD6F99DB483}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0019.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-P4K27</PKey><PID>00426-OEM-8992662-00400</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2476841681-2632566720-1916553026</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>XPS 8300  </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>A06</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="6"/><Date>20111017000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>E4DE3807018400FE</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Mountain Standard Time(GMT-07:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
    Activation ID: 7cfd4696-69a9-4af7-af36-ff3d12b6b6c8
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00426-00178-926-600400-02-1033-7601.0000-0542012
    Installation ID: 017083600513650702056104163542985516147232952915297765
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: P4K27
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 2
    Trusted time: 6/5/2012 8:15:39 AM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x8004FE21
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000006
    Event Time Stamp: 6:2:2012 09:50
    WAT Activex: Registered
    WAT Admin Service: Registered

    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: KAAAAAEAAAABAAEAAQABAAAAAAABAAEAHKIsCX6Qoib4PVQOulkucw==

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC   DELL    FX09  
      FACP   DELL    FX09  
      HPET   DELL  FX09
      MCFG   DELL  FX09
      SSDT   AMICPU  PROC
      SLIC   DELL    FX09  
      OSFR   DELL    FX09  

    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:23 PM
  • Do not use registry cleaners.  The manufacturer's of these products would have you believe that registries need cleaning.  They do not.  The registry is a database so unused (orphaned) entries left behind by installers and such are never accessed again anyway.  Back in Windows 95 days when disk space was tight registry cleaning was used to compact the registry and save space.  But registry entries only take a few bytes each so space saved by cleaning is now insignificant.  The problem with cleaners is that they can misidentify entries and delete some still needed.  Why do you think Microsoft does not provide a registry cleaning function in their disk cleanup tool?  It surely isn't because they don't know how.  It is because they can be harmful and no one knows how to guarantee 100% safety.

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:34 PM
    Answerer
  • WTF is 'PC internet Security'??

    Please give a link to this, as it may be the source of your problems.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth

    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:22 PM
    Moderator
  • I think he means PC Tools Internet Security

    http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.



    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:39 PM
    Answerer
  • That's even worse :)

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth

    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:59 PM
    Moderator
  • Norton basher!  ;)

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 7:50 PM
    Answerer
  • "Cbarnhorst" wrote in message news:d6b877b7-23ee-44de-9754-86ebf704add3...
    Norton basher!  ;)

    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 6GB ram.

    ........a long stick and a fulcrum......
     
    :)

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 8:00 PM
    Moderator