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  •     Hi,



    I hope that someone in this forum can answer my certification questions.


    I have been working for quite some time with windows xp, server 2003, vista etc and i am going for the certifications now.


    My goal is to take the MCSA, then going for the MCSE and upgrade it afterwards to MCITP.
    I have currently the 70-290, and going for the 70-620 (vista) next. I recently discovered that the 70-620 counts only once - meaning that when i will go for the upgrade path towards MCITP i cant reuse this exam.

    my question therefore is:

    Can i after taking the vista certification, also take the 70-270 (XP) certification and use the XP certification as my client exam for the MCSA and use the Vista certification when i will do the upgrade path towards MCITP?




    Regards,


    Ibrar Mohammad

    Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:54 PM

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  • Hello Ibrar,

    The way that it works is the 70-620 can either be counted as the Client OS exam or an Elective, but not both.

    If you use the 70-270 (XP) as your Client OS and the 70-620 as your elective you will be fine. It will count as your elective for the MCSA and MCSE, and it will also count for the MCTIP EA.

    So to answer you question, you can use the 70-270 as the client exam, and have the 70-620 as the elective, and that will also work for your MCITP.

    Hope this helps
    Eric
    • Proposed as answer by Eric Stauss Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:42 PM
    • Marked as answer by Ken Rosen_MS Thursday, March 5, 2009 10:16 PM
    • Unmarked as answer by Ken Rosen_MS Thursday, March 5, 2009 10:17 PM
    Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:42 PM
  • Well according to - http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsa/windows2003/default.mspx then the XP exam is not retired and will count in your MCSA.
    Kent Agerlund
    Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:20 PM
  •  Ibrar, I believe you are confused with the upgrade process. Once you earn your MCSE, you simply need to take the upgrade exam to earn your MCITP. It is not about "reusing" exams at this point because you will have already achieved the MCSE certification and qualify for the upgrade to MCITP.

    Also Eric is correct. If an exam falls into the required and elective parts of a certification track, then it can only be used for one or the other. As an example, the 70-620 is an option for either the client portion or elective portion of the MCSE - but not both. You still have to take 7 exams to earn your MCSE. Understand? :)
    Michael D. Alligood,
    MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician, Consumer Support Technician
    MCTS: Windows Vista - Configuration,
    MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+, Network+

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    Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:44 PM
  • Hi all,



    I think i didnt express myself good enough. :)


    Michael, i think you are closest to understand my cryptic question here. :)
    Lets say that i have earned my MCSE (which i have taken the 70-620 as my client exam) then i can skip the prerequisite exam for MCITP Enterprise administrator as i already have earned the certification? 

    Because upgrading from MCSE -> MCITP Enterprise administrator takes theese exams:  

    Exam 70-649, 

    Exam 70-620
    Or
    Exam 70-624

    Exam 70-647



    Regards,

    Ibrar Mohammad

    Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:10 AM
  • Okay, let's make this easier! :)

    If you hold your MCSE 2003 certification, with the 70-620 as your client requirement as you said; you can upgrade two ways:

    1.) Take and pass the "upgrade" exam - 70-649; https://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcts/windowsserver/2008/transition/default.mspx and 70-647; https://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exams/70-647.mspx

    or

    2.) Take and pass exams 70-640, 70-642, 70-643 and exam 70-647; https://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcitp/windowsserver/2008/enterprise/default.mspx

    Neither option requires you to take the 70-620 or another client requirement since you already took and passed the exam.
    Michael D. Alligood,
    MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician, Consumer Support Technician
    MCTS: Windows Vista - Configuration,
    MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+, Network+

    The I.T. Classroom Blog
    Start. Research. Plan. Perform. Finish. Test. Evaluate.
    Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:25 AM
  • In addition to Michael's post above, in his mentioned option 1 you also have to take and pass exam 647.

    Regards,
    Reinoud
    MCP MCDST MCTS MCITP
    Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:18 PM
  • Correct. I thought I put that in there as well. I fixed it! Thanks!
    Michael D. Alligood,
    MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician, Consumer Support Technician
    MCTS: Windows Vista - Configuration,
    MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+, Network+

    The I.T. Classroom Blog
    Start. Research. Plan. Perform. Finish. Test. Evaluate.
    Sunday, February 1, 2009 7:00 PM
  • Easiest thing is the follow

    You dont have to do an elective as your MCSA covers that.

    As you have already done 70-210/270 you dont need a client

    Since exam 70-292 has retired you cannoit use it. SO you will need to do 70-290 and 291 to get to MCSA 2003

    After that its a case of doing the final 3 exams 70-293,70-294 and either 70-297/298

    Hth


    MCP,MCAD,MCSD.NET,MCTS*7,MCPD*3,MCITP*2,MCDBA Blog: http://certsandprogs.blogspot.com
    Friday, April 24, 2009 6:18 AM
  • Thanks, Niall, I appreciate the response.
    Friday, April 24, 2009 7:05 AM
  • No problem, but if you are using Windows 2008 you could always start that track instead, it would be about the same amount of exams to get to MCITP EA..

    MCP,MCAD,MCSD.NET,MCTS*7,MCPD*3,MCITP*2,MCDBA Blog: http://certsandprogs.blogspot.com
    Friday, April 24, 2009 7:46 AM