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move an investment to a different account

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I need to move an investment into a different existing account.
Is that possible without loosing all my data for this investment?
I am using Money 06 Deluxe and "Pocketsense"
Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:27 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your situation, but I will assume that you want to move all the transactions for a given investment to a new account. One way to do this is to:
- Go to the investment account that currently has the transactions and sort the transactions by investment name. This will put them all together for ease of selection.
- Right click on the oldest transaction (presumably a "Buy") and select "Copy to Account..." and select your new account from the list.
- Do the same for each subsequent transaction in date order.
- Review the investment's transactions in the new account to be sure everything is OK.
- Delete the investment's transactions in the old account, - this time going from newest to oldest.
If this doesn't work or doesn't accomplish what you want, post back.
Bill Becker
Friday, March 1, 2013 3:40 AM -
Similar to the method described would be to make a large fake buy of the security in the losing account. Then do a Cut and Paste to accout from the old accout to the new one. The reason for the fake is to have enough shares as buys get moved while threre are still sells in the first account. After all of the real moves take place, delete the fake Buy.
If you don't move the dividends also, the analysis of the investment performance will be a little off.
Make an extra backup in case you want to undo something.
Friday, March 1, 2013 5:21 AMModerator -
Thank you very much, Bill & Cal, that's working just fine
I have about 20 years of data in this investment, so this is going to take me awhile, I was also hoping I could do the whole thing i one big swoop.
Friday, March 1, 2013 9:17 PM -
You said you wanted to move one investment. If you go to the investment, you can choose InvestmentActivities to find all of the transactions. You can then edit them. 4 quarterly dividends over 20 years is 80 dividends. About a solid hour of work
If you wanted to move all of the investments in an account, there are easier ways.
Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:44 AMModerator -
Yes, you are correct, of course, and that's what I did, but took me a little longer than 1 hour.
Thanks again
Saturday, March 2, 2013 3:34 PM -
If you wanted to move all of the investments in an account, there are easier ways.
Cal
How do I do this please ?
Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:00 PM -
If you wanted to move all of the investments in an account, there are easier ways.
Cal
How do I do this please ?
To move all of the investments from one account to another account is to just Rename the account, and change the details Right-click the account name from the Account List, and choose SeeAccountSettings.
-------------If you are not downloading transactions, you can stop right there.--------------
If you are downloading transactions, such as with PocketSense, the following should work for you. I wrote that when the built-in OFX downloads were working, but the same thing should apply if using PocketSense. ACATS is the system that gets used to transfer securities from one broker to another.
Keep copies/backups at various points in case you want to undo
something.What I would want to do is to ultimately rename the old account to
match the new account, and change the other data also. That is to
say, I would not use Money's transfer out and transfer in function.
This keeps the basis and acquisition dates easy to follow. Others
might make a different choice.The basic thing that will happen is that the old account will have
an initial ACATS transfer out of each holding, and the new account
will have a corresponding transfer in of each holding. However the
old account will continue to receive dividends for maybe a month or
two. Each week, there may be another ACATS transfer of any cash if
some was paid.As soon as you see the ACATS transfers out of the old account, I
would disable the account in question for online access. If I saw
those transactions downloaded, I would delete the statement (right
click on AccountList where it says you have TransactionsToRead.Disable the account for online access. Change the name and numbers
on the account. Set up the account for the new broker.Expect to receive a bunch of ACATS transfers in. Void each, since
you never transferred out the holdings.Keep checking back at the old account via web. Hand enter any
dividends and interest into the account. When the proceeds
transfer in, Void those too.A variation is to keep a copy of your file downloading from the old
account. That would serve to record transactions so you could
refer to it. But the old broker will keep your old account
accessible by web for a good while, including long enough to be
able to download 1099s for next tax season.Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:49 PMModerator -
Cal
Thanks for the prompt response, not quite what I want
Within Money I have them described as Mini ISA and then the year. They are all accounts with Fidelity FundsNetwork.
Fidelity are going to move / amalgamate all the holdings within each annual account into one account and I want to replicate that within Money.
Waqar
Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:26 PM -
Two ways come to mind. Here is my favorite:
1. Rename Mini ISA 2004/2005 to Fidelity ISA.
2. Right click a transaction or reference to Premier Income Fund C Inc and choose GoToInvestment:PremierIncomeFundCInc. Then choose Investment Activities on the left.
Create new fake Buy for 99999 shares, or so, of PremierIncomeFundCInc in Mini ISA 2002/2003 .
3. Starting with the oldest, double-click each actual transaction
of PremierIncomeFundCInc for and change the account to Fidelity ISA.4. Delete the fake Buy.
5. Repeat steps 2...4 for the securities in Mini ISA 2003/2004. When done
the Mini ISA 2002/2003 and Mini ISA 2003/2004 should be empty of transactions.
You can then delete the old accounts.I expect the experience would vary depending on how many of the
transactions were sells, and what basis method was being used. There may be some difference
in wording from my US version for your UK version, but I expect that you will see the similarity.Remember to make extra copies/backups at various points, since that will
give you the ability to revert to that point.Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:59 AMModerator -
Thanks for the advice, when I investigated there there was an option to "cut and paste to a new account" and this seems to have done the job perfectlyWednesday, January 14, 2015 10:17 PM
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I tried both ways but starting with the oldest one and then copying that to the new account, the list jumps to the latest record and it's kind of hard to find where the you were in the list. I tried using CTR A, which doesn't work and CTRL S, which also doesn't work. Any suggestions? My records go back 7 years,Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:40 AM
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I tried renaming the account but I still could not move the account to another investment record. Any other suggestions for moving bulk records going back 7 years?Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:42 AM
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How did you cut and paste to another account? If you have to do this one record at a time, then clicking each record and the copy to the new account would seem to be faster. Still takes a long time. I tried cutting the old account but I guess I don't know how.Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:44 AM
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I see what you mean. If you cut and paste, you don't have to remember where your were in the activities list.Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:47 AM
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I tried renaming the account but I still could not move the account to another investment record. Any other suggestions for moving bulk records going back 7 years?
What are you trying to do? What does "move the account to another investment record" mean to you?
- Edited by Cal LearnerModerator Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:49 AM
Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:48 AMModerator -
That doesn't work if you go from oldest to newest. Deleting an older record can fowl up transactions beyond that point.Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:50 AM
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I tried both ways but starting with the oldest one and then copying that to the new account, the list jumps to the latest record and it's kind of hard to find where the you were in the list. I tried using CTR A, which doesn't work and CTRL S, which also doesn't work. Any suggestions? My records go back 7 years,
Try quoting the thing you are looking at. (press Quote instead of Reply) I don't know which 2 ways you are talking about.
Cntl S and Cntl A won't work. That is the way it is.
What are you trying to do? What does "move the account to another investment record" mean to you?
Wednesday, February 24, 2016 5:29 AMModerator